November 14th, 2008

It’s for your own good

Posted in Blogging by 200

Welcome to any visitors from our farming community. I’m not sure where the link between farming & policing is but for some reason I’ve been recommended as a ‘website you really must see‘ over  at the British Farming Forum.

I expect that even farmers have some spare time to read other people’s blogs in between filling out all those European Free Money Grant application forms.

Talking about people visiting this site. I also had the good fortune to be listed at Stumble Upon last week. I have no idea what Stumble Upon is but it seems someone stumbled upon one of my posts & as a result I got double the amount of visitors than I normally do, always good for the old hit count. The thing is, the link on Stumbled upon wasn’t even one of my newer posts; it was from September 2007.

I suppose we should be grateful that we have blogs to visit, while we can. Since the police PSDs have only managed to close down some of the blogs, it’s only a matter of time before someone tells ISPs that they are no longer allowed to carry blogs deemed by somebody with power to be ‘unhelpful‘.

Doubtless any ban on blogging will be wrapped up in some kind of anti-terrorism, we’re doing it for your own good, kind of propaganda we are growing ever more used to these days.

Somebody commented on a recent post with a quote from Herman Goering: “The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

I guess that is as good today as it was in the 1930s.

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  1. Tony F says:

    Goering may have been a little….odd, but he was no fool when it came to politics. Good job he was crap at aeronautical strategy though.

    I read somewhere, that all you have to do to control a population, is to control their fears. It does not have to be particularly subtle as the Nazis proved. I suspect that in this country, our fears are controlling us.

    November 14th, 2008 at 19:08

  2. quaser says:

    I’m afraid that you have hit the nail on the head there, 200.

    How many times have we been told that a plan by our ‘masters’ is for our own good? ID Cards, records of emails, bin tags (in the name of anti-terrorist fly-tipping), even the recording of telephone conversations by Councils and other less-than police to name but a few.

    Even the use of ANPR cameras, which have a legitimate use for catching car tax dodgers and following crims around are now being deployed to counter the alleged threat of terrorist activities. Of course, we all know that crims in general don’t realise all they have to do is to borrow someone else’s car, and the whole process fqalls down.

    It seems that our politiacl ‘masters’ have realised that the masses will accept any kind of totalitarian state control in the name of ‘preserving us from terrorism’.

    We will reap what we sow in terms of politicos.


    November 14th, 2008 at 20:55

  3. James says:

    Maybe the weak sentencing etc is there to foster a mistrust and public dislike of proponents of human rights so that the powers that be can introduce news laws as they see fit. When there is opposition, it can be dismissed as being those lily livered liberals again.

    Personally I don’t think that’s the case, I just think those making the laws need to remember the old axioms ‘the road to hell is paved with good intentions’ and ‘power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely’.

    November 14th, 2008 at 23:46

  4. john says:

    The ones making the laws care little about axioms, or about us. The ones making the laws are not elected, they are there whatever flavour of politics is “ruling”.
    Politicians come, politicians go. Civil servants are there all the time.
    Elected leaders are there to take the credit, the blame goes to us and the power lies with the permanent servants.

    November 15th, 2008 at 02:11

  5. john says:

    The Goering quote is an obvious statement of fact, so obvious that it has been a matter of puzzlement to me that the “free” press have not picked-upon it.
    But then, I look at the people who own the “free” press and cease puzzling. Lord This. Lord That. CEO ******. Etc Etc… All with an MDE/OBE etc etc….
    All too obviously the “free” press should be the £free£ press.
    Look like the blogs will have to do….what the £$free$£ press are failing to do ?

    November 15th, 2008 at 15:52

  6. MarkUK says:

    Not many people trust our politicians/senior civil “servants”. Why is it, then, that whenever I raise privacy and freedom of speech restrictions I’m regarded as a “whinging leftist”?

    Of all the ways I mistrust government, information is the area in which I trust them least.

    They will either lose the data or misuse it. The times data have been lost is legion. Councils are now using anti-terror laws to catch people dropping litter or allowing their dogs to crap on waste ground.

    If we need the powers under RIPA, then the invasion of privacy should be authorised by a circuit judge or higher – not by a magistrate or simply a middle ranking council officer. The powers should be used sparingly and not for petty offences.

    Of course, Special Branch and the “funny bug*ers” behind them will simply ride roughshod over the law anyway – but at least they are ostensibly looking after security, not dog crap!

    November 15th, 2008 at 23:32

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