November 11th, 2008

Where’s my Prints?

Posted in Other Stuff by 200

I love the Germans; they have great beer, they don’t cross the road until the little green man flashes & they have a wicked sense of humour.

Take the Chaos Computer Club.

It seems the Germans have the same concerns over the introduction of identity cards & storage of personal data as we do in the UK.

A hacker from the Computer Chaos Club has got their hands on the fingerprints of the German Interior Minister, Wolfgang Schauble. The print came from a glass used by the minister at the opening of a religious studies department at the University of Humboldt in Berlin.

An image of the fingerprint has been printed in a copy of a German magazine “Der Datenschlueder”. In an ironic masterstroke the fingerprint has been printed in the magazine but also supplied on a flexible rubber film with partially dried glue which will leave an exact copy of the print, much the same as the real minister’s print. It can be slipped over a finger & used to leave fingerprints on doors, telephones & biometric readers.

An anonymous research student has allegedly used this technique to fool 20 different biometric readers including the same model as used by Germany’s passport office.

A British group No2ID, has announced that they have obtained Jacqui Spliff’s fingerprints from a glass she used at a Social Market Foundation event after it advertised a £1,000 cash reward for the Home Secretary or Prime Minister’s prints.

If any of this is true it is a) very worrying that the government promises of the effectiveness of the ID card system appears to have been blown out the water before it’s even started and b) very funny.

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  1. James says:

    I think anyone with a grasp of history, let alone any knowledge of data storage will tell you that centralised data retention of the type being forced on us is vastly open to abuse by both those with and access and those without.

    Coupled with the gov’t wanting to crackdown on bloggers,

    censor the press

    application of anti terror laws in everyday life

    does make me wonder where it’s all going.

    November 11th, 2008 at 19:40

  2. Core blimey says:

    I think James Bond did this in an early film, also even earlier, Puppet on a String. Poor me.

    November 11th, 2008 at 20:53

  3. Splodge Of Doom says:

    The daft thing with the ID card system is that they say “It will stop terrorists!”

    Oh yeah? How, exactly, does knowing my biometric signiature, birth details, etc. tell you that I am thinking about blowing you up?

    The only way you could do that is with Orwellian 1984 style surveillance scheme, 24/7…

    …If they tried that, I probably would have a go at blowing them up!

    November 11th, 2008 at 22:20

  4. MarkUK says:


    Past heads of MI5 have said that ID cards will do nothing to prevent terrorism.

    The government reckons that the ID cards and the database will cost less than £10 billion. A while back, the LSE reckoned it would be a bit under £30 billion. I’d go with the LSE.

    For £30 billion over 10 years (lifetime of the IDcard), you could have about 30,000 extra coppers. Now, I reckon that more bobbies would do a lot more for security and crime prevention than 60,000,000 bits of plastic.

    November 11th, 2008 at 23:09

  5. john says:

    30,000 extra bobbies probably would do more for security than 60 million cards. But. The cards are little to do with security and a lot to do with gov not trusting the people.
    Security so harsh that terrorists can do no terror can only be obtained by restricting the ability of ordinary people to travel, and by observation so intense that people will not want to travel.

    “The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”
    Hermann Goering
    Speaking at the Nuremburg Trials
    18th April 1946

    November 12th, 2008 at 02:34

  6. Cadbury Moose says:

    How long before someone starts selling packets of vacuum cleaner dust collected from the Palace of Westminster or Queen Anne’s gate to go with the rubber gloves? (Thereby allowing you to leave both Ms Spliff’s fingerprints _and_ DNA traces at a crime scene.)



    November 12th, 2008 at 11:27

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