September 19th, 2008

Make That Two Pairs

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I can’t be the only one drawing up the deckchair & preparing the knitting (or was it crocheting) at the spectacle of the Met Police’s ongoing battle between the top ranking officers & the public executions about to take place.

It seems Met chief Ian Blair has taken my advice & suspended Commander Ali Dizaei over the various allegations of not doing police-type stuff.

The Guardian described affairs as Scotland Yard’s race row ‘erupting’ again. I wouldn’t say it’erupted so much as being bubbling away furiously for the last few weeks. The end game is going to be fantastic. I wonder how many will end up shot down in flames.

I suspect that no matter what happens. The ordinary copper will lose out with everyone slagging ‘the police’ off again. The Black Police Association will up it’s campaign against ‘the police’, and ethnic minority groups will continue to be underrepresented within the ranks of the force, er, service.

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  1. ginger says:

    There may be a third pair required. A Met officer by the name of Girpal Virdi claimed race discrimination at an Employment Tribunal but lost (I think he was given a few bob for something else, though). There are a number of officers who were alleged to have been racist who are taking legal advice regarding suing him for slander. I look forward to this one….

    September 19th, 2008 at 15:25

  2. Anon says:–wins-third-payout-from-Scotland-Yard-in-race-prejudice-case.html

    Some people can make a career out of being a victim

    September 19th, 2008 at 16:11

  3. Civ_In_The_City says:

    As much as I am sympathetic to the causes of equality and fair treatment for all, the situation at the MET should redraw the battle lines in the war on racism in the police.

    There`s a hell of a lot of smoke coming from somewhere if it isn`t a fire. I don`t mean the smoke of racism. I mean the stinking smoke of a coordinated, engineered, planned fit-up job designed to perpetuate the myth about the scale of racism in the police.

    September 19th, 2008 at 18:58

  4. MarkUK says:

    I know a young bloke who’s recently started training with GMP. He’s got one or two prejudices – for instance, he prefers law-abiding people to thugs & crooks, and has this inexplicable prejudice in favour of Manchester’s Red team.

    His workbook on “diversity” was a complete joke. Any racist thug could, if he had the intelligence, give all the “right” answers without changing his views at all.

    The workbook was also intensely patronising to ethnic minorities.

    I’m sure that every constabulary will have its fair share of racists and mysogynists. Workbooks like this will not stop them.

    However, I am not convinced that all the racists are white.

    Surely if someone from an ethnic minority assumes that everyone with an indigenous family tree is there to persecute them, they are guilty of racism by stereotyping.

    Sometimes a person from an ethnic minority thinks that their ability is greater than it is. Why not? This would apply to them just as much as an indigenous Brit. In too many cases, it is (because of their prejudice and the PC-ness of the Tribunal) termed racism rather than lack of ability.

    September 20th, 2008 at 22:42

  5. thethinblueline says:

    Why do we have these “organisations” within the police , the bpa etc etc .. their ethos is based on racism in the first place, we are all sworn officers first .. lets leave the shit at the door on the way in

    September 21st, 2008 at 09:27

  6. Twining says:

    Folks,when slaves got together to protect themselves from slavery, and sang gospel songs, was their ethos based on racism or freedom? Give us a chance please.

    September 21st, 2008 at 17:43

  7. Twining says:

    I have not been able to add for some reason but now it is saving my comments. The workbook is taking the pee, it’s just a tick in the box to make training managers feel like they are achieving. Open talk will achieve more than workbooks.

    September 21st, 2008 at 17:44

  8. Twining says:

    Workbooks just make those that wrote them feel good.

    September 21st, 2008 at 17:45

  9. Twining says:

    The workbook is a joke.

    September 21st, 2008 at 18:28

  10. ted says:

    “Folks,when slaves got together to protect themselves from slavery, and sang gospel songs, was their ethos based on racism or freedom? Give us a chance please.”

    Slavery? It was abolished in the British Empire in 1833. I think that is far enough in the past that it should have no bearing on whether having separate organisations with memberships based on race or religion within the police (or other organisations) is helpful or divisive.

    As a general principle I think dividing society into groups based on race or religion is a bad idea. I’m not walking in Twining’s shoes though so I’ll keep an open mind on whether the BPA falls into the helpful or divisive category.

    September 21st, 2008 at 21:47

  11. bobby says:

    It is going to be interesting to watch and see what develops.

    Consider the players involved, forget their race/colour/relgion/ethnic background and think ‘they are all senior bosses and therefore a bunch of total wankers’.

    There, I’ve put them in their own little group.

    The only loser here will be the bobby on the beat. Once again, we will all be labelled as racists by folk on the street and the diversity training will become worse (if that is possible).

    September 22nd, 2008 at 02:21

  12. Emily says:

    Knitting? I was going to break out the popcorn!

    September 22nd, 2008 at 11:12

  13. Twining says:

    I agree with Ted.

    September 22nd, 2008 at 17:34

  14. Twining says:

    Ted, it may have been abolished legally, but do you know how many people are against inter ethnic relationships? Racism is very much alive and well.

    September 22nd, 2008 at 18:13

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