July 13th, 2008

It’s a Dog’s Life

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

ACPO are to issue guidelines suggesting that police dogs may have to have their feet covered when engaged in searches of Muslim homes.

The story comes hot on the heels of some Muslims being upset and/or offended at an advertising campaign by Tayside Police because it included a picture of a cute puppy sitting beside a police hat & a telephone. The ad was used to encourage people to use the new 0845 telephone number in Tayside.

I have no idea what Muslims think of dogs. Unlike most people who claim not to be racist, I don’t have any Muslim friends, not one., so I can’t ask any  what they think. I expect it is similar to what white Christians think of dogs, some like them, some don’t, some are ‘offended’ by them, some aren’t. Indeed, it seems Muslim religious leaders can’t agree whether dogs are ‘offensive’ or not; Ibrahim Mogra, an imam, says: “In Islamic law the dog is not regarded as impure, only its saliva is. Most Islamic schools of law agree on that. If security measures require to send a dog into a house, then it has to be done. I think Acpo needs to consult better and more widely. I know in the Muslim community there is a hang-up against dogs, but this is cultural."

So, are we bending over backwards unnecessarily? It wouldn’t be the first time.


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  1. Tony F says:

    I suspect that Jews would object to sniffer ovine, if there were any. God botherers, no sense.

    July 13th, 2008 at 20:11

  2. blueknight says:

    Khaleej Times (Dubai Newspaper) 10th July 2008
    ABU DHABI – Brigadier Mohammed Butti Al Rumaithi, Director-General of Security Affairs and Borders, received a delegation from the police dogs section of the German police at his office and discussed opportunities of mutual cooperation particularly in training the personnel attached to the department of police dogs section of Abu Dhabi police
    The German delegation headed by Peter Hendry, Deputy Director General of Fibelgn police department in Germany, and comprised training experts.
    The meeting was also attended by Captain Saeed Khaleefa bin Rakadh, acting head of the police dogs section.
    Brigadier Al Rumaithi discussed the training plans of the department which are in line with the Abu Dhabi police strategic development plans.
    The head of the German delegation stressed the importance of such visits and cooperation particularly in training areas and appreciated the relationship among both security agencies.
    A live demonstration of the expertise of the Abu Dhabi police dogs was also held at the Zayed Sports City for the delegates.
    The demonstraion highlighted the various aspects of the responsibilities of the department in finding explosives, firearms and fighting drug trafficking.
    (No mention of doggy boots)

    And this from Al-Ahram an Egyptian Weekly newspaper
    Training police dogs is also part of the services we provide,” said Selim. While different dogs paraded and showed off their discipline in the garden, the most interesting of all was Biscuit, who after hearing “Behave” from her owner was “all ears”.
    At the facility, there is a strict selection criteria for residents. “We don’t allow aggressive dogs, or unclean ones, because we fear for the handlers and for the other pets around.” Selim also pointed out that all dogs should be vaccinated first and checked over during their welcome walk, once they enter the facility.
    The handlers, in similar uniforms, take the dogs for one of their four daily walks from time to time, and return them back to their kennels, where they are fed and groomed. The owner is very proud of his staff. “I am originally from Upper Egypt, and when I started my project, I brought along people from my town. They had to have an interest in pets in the first place, but they knew nothing else about training or handling dogs,” he said. “They have taken courses from European instructors and every year the best handler is awarded free English or French lessons. My real investment is in my people.” To give back to society, the owner has also developed centres to provide jobs for the unemployed all around the country.
    So now you know?

    July 14th, 2008 at 01:58

  3. 19 says:

    Little bit more research needed there 200, it wasn’t actually that some muslims were offended it was that a councillor feared that the offence could cause offence to some muslims and so from that it got blown out of proportion.
    As for how muslims view dogs then it varies, I’m muslim and I love dogs but there are Qur’anic passages which state they’re unclean and muslims must wash before preforming prayers after coming into contact with dogs saliva and also that angels will not enter any house that a dog lives in.

    July 14th, 2008 at 11:55

  4. Agent Douane says:

    I believe ’19′ above is right. It wasn’t a Muslim who bought the matter to the fore. I’m sure they’ll thank the local councillor for that one! HMRC run sniffer dogs around passengers in the baggage reclaim areas at airports and the early morning mid and long haul flights are a melting pot of people, faiths and ideas with Jews mixing with Arabs mixing with Sikhs mixing with Christians and Atheists (damn will I offend anyone now I don’t mention?) I personally am not too keen on dogs, bring on the cats.

    July 14th, 2008 at 17:12

  5. blueknight says:

    19 is probably right in thinking that this did not come from a muslim, but some busybody left wing ‘right on’atheist who thinks he/she knows what everyone else wants or needs.

    July 14th, 2008 at 21:17

  6. 200 says:

    19, Agent Douane, blueknight,

    so the information that some Muslim shopkeepers in Dundee refused to put up the postcards featuring the dog, which was distributed to shops & businesses all over the district, and reported by Muslim councillor Mohammed Asif to Tayside Police, was wrong?

    If that information is correct then I think I got the ‘research’ right, unless you have further information & can update me, 19?

    July 14th, 2008 at 23:12

  7. 19 says:

    200 from what I heard regarding the matter and please bear this in mind it is only second hand information through a representative organisation, the shopkeepers refused to display the poster as they didn’t want to use the space to promote a non profit organisation i.e they wanted the space for advertisements for au pairs and massage parlours and weren’t interested in showing a police poster. But then that probably wouldn’t reinforce the angle the paper was trying to portray and so it got tied into the whole doggy issue. As I said before I like dogs, what I don’t like is people getting offended on my behalf and telling me what might offend me. If something offends me I’ll let whoever know

    July 15th, 2008 at 14:37

  8. Jabadaw says:

    Actually Angels do go into houses where dogs live in. Indeed I know of a dog that is an Angel and lives just up the road from me! Even the ‘Angels’ owners are now calling her Angel.

    Isn’t it truly amazing what form G-d will send his Angels down from Heaven to us sinners?

    July 15th, 2008 at 22:04

  9. Civ_In_The_City says:

    It`s a sign of why people are so hacked off with political correctness when someone completely unconnected to a potentially offensive incident takes it upon themselves to take offence on behalf of someone else, or a minority group.

    It`s also a sign of how potty the country is when Guardianistas are leading the charge and can`t see the irony in what they do.

    The classic in the paper recently involved the old ‘brainstorming’ question. The politically correct language-Gestapo at one of our councils decided (again?) that ‘brainstorming’ was potentially offensive to people who have epilepsy. Everyone said it was b*ll*cks but they banned the word from their meetings. And then apologised if by banning a potentially offensive word they had inadvertantly offended anyone.

    Actually you`ve directly and blatantly offended everyone with your petty-minded idiocy when you should be running council services.

    We haven`t quite reached the point of public book burning but they way the PC censors have hacked at nursery rhymes doesn`t bode well for the future of our world. Censorship, thought-police. No ta.

    July 24th, 2008 at 22:34

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