July 8th, 2012

It’s OK, I’ve told the Old Bill

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

I’ve posted about the¬†general¬†attitude that seems to prevail these days that everything is someone else’s problem to deal with, usually the police.

Never more true is it than with teenage ‘missing people’. I say ‘missing’ because around 99.9 per cent of the missing people we have to deal with are not actually missing, they are merely recalcitrant kids who can;t be arsed to follow the rules laid down by their parents or frequently their ‘care’ homes.

It used to be that when someone rang up and said that Chelsea had walked out the door at 9 at night ¬†because she wasn’t prepared to miss out on a bit of fun with her mates, that we said “what are you doing about it?” If the answer was, as it usually is now, “nothing”, we said “Well best you get yourself and your family out there looking for her, let us know if she doesn’t turn up by tomorrow.”

Now everything is the police’s responsibility so we have to send police officers to do what any sensible person would believe is the job of the parents or guardians.

I’ve lost count of the number of times a log includes the words “I reported it to social¬†services¬†but they told me to call the police.” Like the police have the wherewithall to sort out the problems which make Chelsea want to bugger off whenever the hell she likes, anyway.

There was some government mouthpiece on the telly just last week¬†bemoaning¬†the state of care homes and the lack of supervision, whilst at the same time completely forgetting that the problem with care homes is that the government have overseen an ethos where kids now think their rights, needs and ¬†wants trump anyone else’s, and they believe they can do whatever they please, further, that carers and guardians have no rights such that when someone says they want to bunk off for the night nobody is prepared to actually either lock the fucking door or physically stop them walking off into the night, safe in the knowledge that all they have to do is ring the old bill and the buck is safely passed.

It is not unusual to get 4 or 5 ‘mispers’ on a late or night shift, every one of which will be someone gone for the umpteenth time. Usually ¬†4 or 5 of the parents or guardians will have done precisely bugger all to locate their missing ‘loved ones’ and even when we have, several of them will refuse to get off their arse and go and collect them, preferring to remain within the comfort of their own home while the old Bill waste their time and tax-payers money ferrying the little darlings half way across the county.

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  1. MPS(n)P says:

    Don’t forget hospitals, mental health wards and old people’s homes.

    Heard recently on the radio:

    A man who had been on an inpatients ward for 5 days waiting for an MRI got bored and went home. Hospital waited 5hrs to report, then said it was urgent. Errr, so urgent you waited 5 days to scan him, and 5hrs to report him?

    An elderly male with dementia ‘escaped’ from carers in the streets near his care home. ‘Informant will wait at the venue’ – errrr, why aren’t they following the elderly male?

    Noone is willing to take responsibility for the people they are trusted (and PAID) to mind.

    July 9th, 2012 at 09:01

  2. PETE THE PLOD says:

    yep,’system’ is a joke ,every week the same ‘vulnerable’ children go on the skite,the homes even take them to where they want to go , let them free on a ‘day pass’ safe in the knowledge that they ‘promise’ to return….funnily enough they dont and we get landed with a shed load of work knowing fine well that when they get cold/hungry/run out of money/ they will ring us and blue light taxis then oblige.a BIGGER joke is the ‘new’ coding system , green ..we do nothing , amber ….the home does the paperwork…red we attend and do it all……again all the wee darlings that could reasonably assumed to be at worst amber are now classed as red by the homes , meaning precisely bugger all has changed and we do all the work.Dont get me started on all the ‘drama queens’ that threaten to top themselves usually armed with nothing more than a need for attention and a bottle of vodka and a lifetime of woe is me!My cynicism is growing !

    July 9th, 2012 at 09:15

  3. Paul the Not Plod says:

    Actually 200, you are being unfair to the care workers

    “nobody is prepared to actually either lock the fucking door or physically stop them walking off into the night”

    There’s a simple reason for this. If you lock the door you are risking prosecution. If you physically stop them you are risking prosecution. If you go out and physically put them in a vehicle and take them back you are risking prosecution. If you actually do, more or less, anything other than ‘advise’, you are risking prosecution.

    It’s not just an old wives tale either ; everyone in the Education/Care Sector knows people (personally) who have been treated outrageously.

    There are people desperate to believes Wayne’s claim he was “treated roughly” (who will ignore the minor detail that Wayne was kicking someone else’s head in at the same time) and present Wayne as a poor innocent victim of a brutal adult. That’s how they feather their own nests.

    Doesn’t matter if Wayne’s demonstrably lying, he’s confused because of the abuse he’s had, so it doesn’t count,

    Even if Wayne’s claim is thrown out at every stage the same person will write it negatively on a CRB report (to cover their own backs) thus making it very difficult to get another job or keep the current one.

    These people are known as “Police Officers”.

    Tell me, if every single complaint against a Police Officer – even those thrown out at the first stage – resulted in long suspensions, blocks on promotion, and often the sack, how do you think the Police and Criminals would behave ?

    July 9th, 2012 at 12:00

  4. Plodnomore says:

    A children’s home near to my old nick was a constant source of ‘demanding’ we go out and find kids they had allowed to walk out. Then they had a new manager, who had apparently been trained at the university of common-sense. He initiated a programme where the residents were told that for every ‘right’ there was a correspoding ‘responsibility’ and if they didn’t know what that responsibility was, to ask a member of staff. It took some time, but the message sunk in and the problems that place caused dropped dramatically. Sadly, the guy was poached by a private company and the place soon returned to ratshit after his replacement, a left-wing, sociologist, took over.

    July 9th, 2012 at 13:34

  5. Paul the Not Plod says:

    Such a place would fail the regulator. Sounds like a shaggy dog story to me.

    You can tell children all about rights and responsibilities all you like but they’re only interested in half of it.

    They already know what they are supposed to be doing – (do you believe criminals excuses ?) but there is no way of making them do so. A manager of a Care Home cannot enforce virtually anything.

    I would have thought (from reading a Police blog) that all Police Officers know what the result of the “no punishment and explain to them what they have done wrong” approach to justice is.

    They write about it often enough.

    What happens is the criminals laugh at you, tell you to fnck off, and go and do it all over again, right ? They know its wrong but they don’t care because nothing happens to them.

    That’s what happens when the judge buys the “his girlfriend’s just had a baby, he’s trying really hard to get off drugs” cr*p for the thirteenth time in a row, isn’t it ?

    Why on earth would it work better in Care Homes ?

    July 9th, 2012 at 20:34

  6. Plodnomore says:

    @PtNP, Not a shaggy dog story. Two of the elder residents actually began giving talks to youth clubs, schools, etc, through the local authority. One went on to join the Army and the other went to College to try for the eduational qualifications he had ignored earlier in his life. Sometimes out there, you do find a little bit of light in the darkness. Apart from that, I do agree with you regarding the courts believing the excuses given, though have no answer to that.

    July 10th, 2012 at 10:13

  7. mindtheoranges says:

    “Tell me, if every single complaint against a Police Officer ‚Äď even those thrown out at the first stage ‚Äď resulted in long suspensions, blocks on promotion, and often the sack, how do you think the Police and Criminals would behave?”
    It is the same for police. A colleague of mine has been under investigation for months now following an allegation of sexual assault by a female he arrested. He has had to provide DNA samples and all sorts. This is despite the fact that he was in company with another officer at the time, and the “victim” clearly stated, in the holding cell prior to being booked in, on CCTV, that she would be making up the allegation to get him in trouble. We are all in the same boat, it’s just that the police aren’t allowed to say no. Now everyone else’s powers have been eroded to non-existence, the buck stops at the police. This places greater demands on an already depleted service.

    July 11th, 2012 at 09:31

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