May 20th, 2008

It’s not just the police who are bigots

Posted in The Job - General by 200

Being a bit sad, I spend a lot of time wandering the corridors of the internet during my private ‘down time’. As well as one or two police forums I frequent, I also use a couple of non-police websites, kind of hobby type interest sites.

It’s interesting how often websites discussing such diverse things as Mitsubishi motor cars, fly fishing & cross stitch end up talking about the police & usually end up in slanging matches about how useless, evil, corrupt or stupid police officers are.

There’s one in particular I visit often which has a handful of regulars who queue up to slag off the old Bill whenever the opportunity arises. Apparently, we’re all power-crazed dictator-neanderthals who are thick, don’t know the law & like nothing better than fitting people up or smacking them in the gob whenever we can.

Sometimes I ignore these threads, sometimes I really enjoy winding people up by joining in & stirring things along. They hate it when people speak out in favour of the police.

One of these folks makes a point of saying how much he does for the community. I’m not sure what he does for a living but apparently he’s been connected to the underprivileged, drug users, minority groups & alternative lifestyle folk. He gets very annoyed when people stereotype these groups & the accusations of bigotry & racism flow quite freely from his keyboard.

He refers to the folks-in-blue as "PC Plod", he is forever saying how stupid police officers are & whenever a story appears which shows the police in a poor light he says the whole police are at fault. He never accepts that he is as bigoted as those he seeks to criticise.

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8 comments

  1. Litew8 says:

    Hi 200, I also read a lot of other “job” blogs and see the slanging matches that ensue… I’m not a religious person, but I do think, people take things much too seriously at times.

    The little that I know about religion might make for a good reply next time you meet your matey online (the biggoted-but-otherwise-good-samaritan):

    Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

    Anyhow, have a nice day!

    L.

    May 21st, 2008 at 07:43

  2. Rev. Steve Walters says:

    I tend to agree with you, many years ago when I was at Uni I was a Special Constable with quite a progressive force (we had the same kit and roles as Regulars, just lacked the experience of doing the job full time). Our lecturers were a caricature of the left wing lecturer, everything was the Polices fault, until one day a group of lads started kicking the **** out of two college staff in the lobby. Myself and another Special phoned for the police, identified ourselves and nicked the two main culprits as they tried to take off. All of a sudden views on policing changed, because it had affected their own little world.

    Sad, isn’t it, that we can’t just admit there are idiots and saints in every job.

    May 21st, 2008 at 12:35

  3. Tony F says:

    I suspect that their opinions would change if something happened to their property/loved ones. They would be shouting for help from the police as loudly as they could…

    Is it only me that is annoyed by the meeja calling the police ‘Cops’ all the time? I know it seems a minor thing but it does always seem derogatory

    PS. I am not a police person. I ‘help’ in your inquiries quite a lot though. (CCTV Engineer!) It’s quite funny, the number of people ask if we can fit machine guns to the cameras…..

    May 21st, 2008 at 13:40

  4. AnneDroid says:

    This made me think of a conversation I had some time ago with a prisoner (now on the run).

    He’s quite anarchist-y in his views and genuinely and sincerely believes that all prison officers and police officers are evil oppressors, and that all prisoners are innocent good guys, victims of the state etc… I found it very amusing that he was so keen to criticise me at length for my “blind” faith (I’m a prison chaplain and minister) whilst being so utterly blind himself in not letting the facts get in the way of his world view!

    I often think it must drive you “cops” nuts to have the kind of coverage you put up with day in and day out in the media, and I too have come across what you talk about on some blogs. Chin up.

    May 21st, 2008 at 20:26

  5. Grumpy Old Biker says:

    Excuse me if I’m missing the point here.

    I thought I’d detected more than a slight negativity towards the Police Force from within this very blog. In fact, the abundance of ‘Police’ blogs out there seems to be a symptom of the low esteem held towards the Police by many of those working within. Maybe Police blogs are feeding the bigotry?

    The public, (or MOPs, as I believe we’re described as) rarely have direct contact with the Police and yet, and I include myself here, there has been a wholesale drift away from respecting the Police to feelings of contempt for them. Why that should be is unclear. I know several really great people in the Police and have only met about three complete arseholes.

    Our perceptions are generally based on indirect contact, but whilst the Police continue to employ idiots at the top such as Blair, Blunstrom and Meredith Hughes, the reputations of all those represented by these idiots will continue to be tarnished.

    May 22nd, 2008 at 12:03

  6. 200 says:

    GOB,

    Yes, I think you are slightly missing the point. There is a difference between ‘slagging’ off the organisation, it’s policies & procedures as opposed to doing the same to the individuals within the organisation who have absolutely nothing to do with those same procedures.

    We all know that many of the policies brought in around policing do absolutely nothing to enhance safety or detect & prevent crime, is this the same as saying that police officers are a bunch of useless pricks?

    I know several black men who have raped, I don’t go round saying that blacks are rapists.

    Racism isn’t acceptable, unless it’s based on what clothes you wear at work.

    May 22nd, 2008 at 16:04

  7. Grumpy Old Biker says:

    Maybe I’m starting to see your point… So it’s okay to slag off the organisation and it’s okay to slag off individuals we know to be useless pricks, but we mustn’t make generalisations.

    Unfortunately, uniformed police officers are the face of the organisation. If people perceive the Service as being useless and full of useless pricks, isn’t it natural they are going to direct their feelings towards them?

    Whilst I hate this type of mass hysteria, these people don’t appear to be directing their venom at individuals, but towards the uniform.

    And no one can tell me they went into the police force without knowing the bigotry they might face, but perhaps it’s coming from a wider section of MOPs now.

    May 23rd, 2008 at 10:40

  8. 200 says:

    GOB, yep, getting the idea…. you seem to be coming from the classic point of view “…that’s what you get paid for…”?

    I don’t know anyone who gets paid to be abused, except maybe some folk with a certain leaning towards visiting dominatrix-style people.

    Just because it’s widespread, doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.

    Not only is it acceptable to slag off BT or NTL, it’s a required practice. (But I wouldn’t call my local BT engineer a useless prick – unless he was one, of course)

    May 23rd, 2008 at 13:39

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