March 30th, 2012

One step forward, two steps back

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If this story is true, it doesn’t look too good.

You’d have thought, with all the technology people carry with them these days, and all the technology people nearby have, that people would think before they open their mouths.

I mix with a lot of young black men in a social setting, they are part of a club that I help with. Some of them call each other ‘nigga’ quite often, they refer to each other as such on FB, which kind of puts out a mixed message which I’m not down enough with the kids to extricate. I  don’t think because they use the word, that anyone not within that group can use it. I have no desire to use the word, much like I never use the ‘C’ word either, whether I understand the social moires of is street-culture banter, or not.

I guess anyone who does, and gets recorded doing it, is setting themselves up for a fall, big style.

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  1. Whinger says:

    The officer involved is for the chop without a doubt!

    Correct decision from the CPS in my opinion though!

    After all., we are not allowed to be harassed alarmed and distressed are we?

    I have no doubt the black youth wasn’t either!

    That said, the Officer should never have said it and he will now pay the price!

    March 31st, 2012 at 06:39

  2. Mad Mick says:

    Whilst I do agree with much of what has been said, we are supposed to be professional.

    March 31st, 2012 at 14:53

  3. Whinger says:

    Yes, the officer has been unprofessional but he has not committed a Public Order Offence!

    March 31st, 2012 at 15:48

  4. jaded says:

    Let’s see how this story pans out first before we rush to judgement.The CPS decided there was no case to answer the first time they looked at it and now political pressure has bought this into the headlines 7 months later.I want to hear all the evidence,not just the bits the Guardian have editited in.

    March 31st, 2012 at 17:48

  5. Whinger says:

    It was obviously a conversation between the two of them ,

    The Officer was using the other persons speak!

    March 31st, 2012 at 20:47

  6. Blueknight says:

    Just a thought, if CPS decide there is evidence of a public order offence, are they out of time for a prosecution? I assume they can’t bump up the charges this time. (Simon Harwood)

    March 31st, 2012 at 21:47

  7. Civ_In_The_City says:

    I haven`t listened to the recording yet but read the transcript from the comfort of my sofa:

    The 21 year old said: “It’s not right. We’ve just got different skin colour – underneath it we’re all the same.”

    The officer said: “Don’t hide behind your colour, yeah, be proud. Be proud of who you are, yeah. Don’t hide behind your black skin.”

    Seeing as this is such a massively scandalous story, why did I have to watch through an advert for Lindt Chocolate Bunnies before I could hear the recording itself on the Guardian website? There`s a real story of how messed up our society is.

    O.k. I`ve listened to the recording and my conclusion is this. I think the officer showed poor judgement in using the ‘N’ word, but the fact that he is being threatened with losing his job is ridiculous. I don`t think a spoken word constitutes a criminal offence, simple as that.

    Secondly, listening to the recording we don`t get to see or hear anything of the minutes leading up to the arrest, we don`t see or hear how the alleged ‘victim’ was treated or how he responded to being stopped and arrested. I`m interested in context, not looking for excuses.

    Was the officer making the arrest black himself? Would this be in the headlines at all if he was? Just a thought.

    I think the officer was using the ‘N’ word not in an abusive way but as a slang term for ‘gangsta’, the walk, the look, the attitude, the confrontational attitude towards law-enforcement and so on. He bluntly encourages the man to get past that stereotype and go beyond the limitations our various cultures impose on us.

    Both sides sounded frustrated and p*ssed off.

    If someone he respected and looked up to said to him: “Don’t hide behind your colour, yeah, be proud. Be proud of who you are, yeah. Don’t hide behind your black skin.”

    No story.

    April 1st, 2012 at 09:14

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