September 28th, 2011

One law for…

Posted in The Job - General by 200

Travellers have been in the news a lot recently, what with the Dale Farm debacle.

The Telegraph reports today on an all-too-frequent occurrence at a traveller site in Northamptonshire. Paul Staley, a farmer, and his son Sean were returning to their farm when they disturbed a group of people stealing parts from two vehicles parked on the farm.

The thieves made off in a vehicle and forced their way past Mr Stanley’s allegedly pointing a shotgun at them out the window as they made off.

The Stanley’s gave chase and followed the vehicle to a traveller site outside Northampton. Police officers arrived and the victims pointed out the offenders’ vehicle inside the camp, it contained stolen parts from two of the farmers’ vans including a metal container, wheels and bumpers.

Police declined to go into the camp to seize the vehicle or make enquiries as to the whereabouts of the offenders telling the victims that they were not allowed onto the site until a full risk assessment had been made.

The story in the Telegraph doesn’t report on whether this risk assessment was done nor what the conclusion was, but police later said that three officers went onto the site in the early hours but the vehicle was not recovered. It is not clear whether the Stanleys got any of their property back.

Mr Stanley said: “If we’d had a shotgun out they would have had an armed response and helicopter flying over us and we’d have been in all sorts of trouble,’ said Mr Stanley, from Wootton, a village just south of Northampton. But when it’s the other way round with travellers it doesn’t happen.

“The police were there, the vehicle was there, our stuff was in the back of it. It could have been job done. It was only when I went public that they became interested.”

I can imagine that the risk assessment said something along the lines of. Travellers have a reputation for violence, travellers have been known to possess illegal firearms, old bill don’t have enough officers. We’ll fill in a crime report and leave everyone thinking we are scaredy-cats.


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  1. joe says:

    I can’t see what the problem is. The police were correctly showing sensitivity in not infringing on the travellers basic cultural norms. Indeed I believe they should have taken firm action against the Stanleys since they were clearly acting in a racist manner in attempting to interfere with the traveler way of life and infringing on the travellers human rights. Apart from their racist behaviour, since they possess a shot gun the Stanleys are self evidently rightwing nutters (what conceivable use could a farmer have for such a dangerous item) and should have been immediately banged up.

    Good heavens Mr Weeks next you will be suggesting that the police should interfere with other minority cultural traditions by stopping black youths from mugging people and murdering each other, muslims from engaging in “honour” killing and attempting to blow people up or Albanians from importing drugs and prostitutes. Are you some kind of bigot?

    You are in urgent need of a diversity and cultural awareness course.

    Meantime my plans to move to a country where the government doesn’t take most of my money in tax which they then proceed to give away to support the undeserving and where the police are there to enforce the law proceed apace.

    September 29th, 2011 at 05:58

  2. Tony F says:

    Or we could just call in a Harrier strike against the ‘traveller’ sites. If we had any.

    September 29th, 2011 at 14:14

  3. Tony Durham says:

    Should be easy enough to trace the suspects though – they are all called John Smith,none of them know their birthdates or where they were born !

    September 29th, 2011 at 17:20

  4. blueknight says:

    The Vagrancy Act was introduced to combat the problem of Napoleonic War Soldiers begging and showing wounds. The original 1936 Public Order Act was introduced to combat Oswald Mosely’s blackshirts. Since then we have had various Crime and Disorder Acts to combat ‘Raves’
    Any chance of something aimed at keeping the travellers under control?.
    Sooner or later someone will take the law into their own hands and carry on where Tony Martin left off.

    September 29th, 2011 at 19:20

  5. 334Boss says:

    Incident some years ago where ‘travellers’ entered a live aircraft firing range to steal alloy doors off a target APC. When I tell people the was an emergency ‘cease fire’ without exception people say ‘Why?’

    September 29th, 2011 at 22:57

  6. boy on a bike says:

    Why did you cease fire? To go back and re-arm with bigger bombs?

    September 30th, 2011 at 11:44

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