September 14th, 2011

Standards have dropped, shock, horror

Posted in The Job - General by 200

Ex rail-regulator and government-appointed looker-into of the polcie service, Tom Winsor, he who is hoping to change the terms and conditions for police officers making the world a better place, has discovered that the standards of entry into the police force has dropped.

He has found that some people believe the quality of evidence given at court by some officers is ‘barely literate’, and noted that interview questions from the 1930s and 40s were significantly higher than those of today.

I suspect that any salty old dogs out there – like me – might agree with him. When I was tutoring new PCs I also found the standard dropped in the 90s. I had officers who couldn’t spell beyond a pretty basic level and whose sentences barely passed a pretty low level of correct grammar. I’m not sure the lower standards of those times have improved much since then.

Winsor has been told by a former commissioner of the Met and a national Federation official that standards were lowered to increase acceptance levels for black and minority ethnic applicants.

The Home Secretary was asked if the police have poor standards of literacy. She said: “That is not what I have found. I have found officers committed and dedicated to getting on with their job.” Like she’d have the first clue about educational standards in the police.


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  1. shijuro says:

    U no wat bakes mi biskit?

    fekkers that critasize the cops for not spekking rite and riting without usin the rite punct punk things wen they be writin…

    earlee-a go, tom winza sez that bannisters tel him that cops cant even write nor reed…and use the wrong granner or somthink…

    wot a load of crap… bannisters are somfink to do wid stairs innit?

    thing that Tom forgot is we hav somfink called ‘pozative discriminate-ean’ now… that is a fing when u r 2 fick to pass the cops exham (coz you spent your skool daze-waggin it and hangin out wiv your mates and the yout…)

    so when u c the advert ‘joyn the cops-visible efnic minoraties and poor peepole very well-come’ you have ago…an BINGO! you fale…

    So… the gov said ”how cum (titter) we have no fick/poor/efnics in the cops?”

    so…the mak the exham eazia…

    now we have got peepole in the cops that caint evin SPEEL…

    Or run…

    or listen…

    they shoud have done betta at skool like wat i did…

    and tom winza shoud go an b-oil his head…

    September 15th, 2011 at 09:06

  2. Fee says:

    There may well be a generation of younger cops who have issues with spelling and grammar. Over in my part of the private sector, we have a generation of younger ‘office drones’ with the same issues. There’s a really simple reason – they stopped teaching kids how to spell, punctuate, and construct proper sentences at primary school level. It’s still not as important in today’s exams as it was back in my day (this isn’t a guess, I’ve had it confirmed by my childrens’ teachers) and if you don’t learn it while young, you likely never will. Spellcheck hides a multitude of sins in the business world, believe me! Even with that, I regularly come across horrendously worded letters that must make our customers think we’re a bunch of ignorant fools.

    So, Mr Winsor, it isn’t the fault of the police, and it isn’t unique to them. I know this, why don’t you?

    September 15th, 2011 at 12:36

  3. Tony F says:

    Failure is NOT allowed in this society of mediocrity. I notice the Home Sec answered a different question to the one she was asked.

    September 15th, 2011 at 17:43

  4. Plodnomore says:

    There have been a number of times when I was asked to read through probationer’s statements and tried, often unsuccessfully, to explain the differences between ‘there’ and ‘their’; When ‘is’ and ‘are’ were appropriate as well as ‘I’ and ‘me’. Fairly basic grammar but quite a few had no idea because they were never corrected at school (or should that be ‘skool’?). Rather than criticise the Police, who are merely trying to recruit suitable candidates who had been educated according to Government guidelines, Mr Winsor would be better employed criticising the Social experimenting cretins who formulated the education policies for the past 15 years. However, that would mean criticising Saint Tony and his cohorts and that would never do!

    September 15th, 2011 at 19:19

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