July 28th, 2011

Another u-turn? Surely not

Posted in The Job - General by 200

Regular readers will know of my objections to the DNA database, or more specifically to keeping innocent people’s DNA records on file. I’m not one to champion the European Court of Human Rights but just to mention that in 2008 they ruled the British Government was retaining innocent people’s DNA records illegally and that they should delet them from the records.

The Labour government objected to this but in a mealey mouthed effort to go part way with the court’s recommendations, they agreed to delete these records after six years.

Now the coalition have gone even more mealey-mouthed by rescinding that decision & worming their way out of it by saying that they won’t delete the records but they will separate the identity of the records so that they won’t be easily identifiable. Both parts of the record will be kept apart and only matched up should the DNA record be of some future use.

Call me old fashioned but that just means they are still keeping innocent people’s DNA records.

I shouldn’t be surprised that the government has done a U-turn on policy, what with their record so far.

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  1. Jimbob says:

    I’m sure I read somewhere else though that there was a practical reason behind this – namely that the actual physical samples are all bundled together in batches by date obtained at different locations and it would be a mammoth and costly task to go through and weed out the odd ‘innocent’ from the others. I don’t see that mentioned in the Graniaud article but I’ll see if I can find a link.

    July 29th, 2011 at 09:37

  2. Plodnomore says:

    When I was medically retired from my county force several years ago I wrote to the Chief asking for confirmation that the DNA sample I (naively) frely gave, plus the fingerprints, would be destroyed. To date, despite quite a few letters and more than a few phone calls, I have still to receive a suitable reply. I wonder if I could have the Chief done for theft? Once I retired and asked for the samples to be destroyed, a refusal, or ignoring of my request, would mean that, although initially obtained within lawful means, he has unlawfully assumed the rights of ownership (especially of the DNA, less so the fingerprints). Unfortunately, I have been out of the system so long I’m not certain if the law regarding theft has been changed. Any comments?

    July 29th, 2011 at 19:20

  3. jaded says:

    I’m usually more right-wing than Genghis Khan but I wouldn’t give the police my DNA.I wouldn’t trust the government to run a bath let alone keep it safe.
    On a training day years ago a member of the senior management came walking in to do a Q+A session.(They always come at the end of the day so they don’t get asked too many difficult questions as we want to go home).He had in his hand a load of DNA kits.He said “line up chaps I am going to take your DNA for elimination purposes”.This was before new recruits got done automatically.An old Inspector with about three weeks to go said ” you can f++k right off i’m retiring next month,you’re getting nothing off me”.Cue much hilarity and we all walked out of the room behind this old sweat to the dismay of the Super.Hilarious.

    July 30th, 2011 at 16:38

  4. Gary says:

    When my farce introduced the idea that all members should provide a DNA sample for elimination purposes I refused. I was in turn spoken to by an Inspector and then a Chief Inspector who was most insistant and implied that a refusal perhaps hid a guilty secrtet. I had to bluntly ask him which part of NO he did not understand. Never asked me again.

    July 31st, 2011 at 15:05

  5. Gary says:

    In addition when will the police sell all this DNA info to insurance companies so that they can load their premiums for those that have some risky medical condition or refuse life insurance/mortgages?

    July 31st, 2011 at 15:08

  6. Hibbo says:

    This is just ridiculous. The government always hold up the European Commission or the ECHR as the reason my they can’t deport nasty criminals etc, yet when the ECHR prevents them from doing something they want to do, they just ignore it. Twats.

    I to don’t trust the police or the government to hold such incredibly sensitive information. It will either get “lost” and end up on thepiratebay, or sold off to anyone who wants it (DVLA records anyone?).


    August 1st, 2011 at 15:31

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