November 27th, 2010

Hidden Agendas?

Posted in The Job - General by 200

So how many people have heard of or seen this?

It’s a Private Members’ Bill which had its first reading recently & appears to be an attempt to ban the burka in England & Wales. I say recently, it was summer this year.  As such, I suppose it’s no longer news are there is little chance that Tory MP, Philip Holborne, will ever get it passed into law. But as I only just came across the details I’ll give it an airing.

The proposed law would make it an offence to wear in public, with a few exceptions such as health & safety equipment, a face covering the main purpose for which is to hide the face. It seems the only exceptions on the grounds of religion would be at a place of worship, rather than anywhere else in public.

I guess it’s similar to the changes made to the laws in France.

Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?

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  1. Fee says:

    Laws like these make me very uncomfortable. I don’t like seeing women hidden under burkas in the name of religion (although a Muslim friend tells me that all that is required is ‘modesty’ anyway) but the way to change this is surely education. The freedom to dress as we please, within the bounds of decency of course, is something we should all hold dear.

    If they get this through, what’s next? Can they ban ‘builder’s bums’ or chunky blokes stripping in the streets, please? (just joking)

    November 28th, 2010 at 09:55

  2. rafanon says:

    I’m a country boy. I was in London not long ago and whilst there no one batted an eye lid at each other. They all appeared rude, ignorant and in a hurry. Initially I considered the burkha to be an impersonal garment which encouraged division and distrust through not being able to see the individual’s face to judge intent and emotion.

    If the rest of the country is like London, it makes absolutely no difference whether they’re wearing fully covered burkha’s or a cucumber bikini, no one communicates or looks at each other anyway!

    It looks daft (to me) and a little intimidating but if that’s what they’re ordered to wear by their religion then who are we to argue?

    However, if a terrorist is ever proven to conceal his weapon within one then they’ll (burkha) have to go.

    November 28th, 2010 at 11:21

  3. Tony F says:

    My view is that all religions should be banned. Anyone not liking it can go to country’s run by the religion of their choice.

    November 28th, 2010 at 11:31

  4. Mad Mick says:

    I have to admit, whilst I don’t like the burka, I really do believe that it should be a person’s right to wear it in observance of their religion. That said, I do not believe that it should be used as a defence to any legitimate request to remove such a garment. e.g. for officers identifying persons (driving licence check), for bank tellers/shop owners (security). No one should be able to claim “religious intolerance” or interference if they are asked to remove such an item. If you want to wear one and don’t want to remove it, don’t drive and don’t go into any shops!

    November 28th, 2010 at 12:08

  5. Blueknight says:

    Says something that Turkey also managed to ban the headscarf…..

    November 28th, 2010 at 14:31

  6. Sam Yeager says:

    So if this had become law would it have been lawful to arrest people demonstrating that were wearing scarves and the like to prevent identification via CCTV?

    November 28th, 2010 at 14:31

  7. simon says:

    To be honest I’d rather islam is banned.

    November 28th, 2010 at 22:40

  8. Max, American says:

    It’s a French idea. By definition, it must be bad.
    What’s the reductio ad absurdum here? Running around cutting the beards off Hasidim so they won’t all look alike and a bearded Muslim won’t be able to infiltrate their ranks and detonate a plastique-laden haggis in Harrod’s?

    November 29th, 2010 at 01:06

  9. Zac Smith says:

    The second this happens – I am wearing a burka out. It is absolutely none of the government’s business what I wear.

    November 29th, 2010 at 09:24

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