October 26th, 2010

That’s alright, then

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

So the SAS are to train some UK police officers in how to deal with a dozen or so heavily armed terrorists walking the streets & killing as many people as possible.

Apparently, Europe has been put on notice that Al-Quaeda terrorists are planning a Mumbai-style attack on the streets of a major city. In the first 30 minutes of the attack in India 166 people were killed.

Europe is made up of many countries so the likelihood of terrorists choosing the UK is slim. I mean, not that the UK has done anything to get on the wrong side of Muslim terrorists, nor that it would be remotely easier to launch a fully armed attack in the only country where the police are unarmed. Hmm, now where would you launch an attack?

The first paragraph of the sory in today’s Telegraph says: “Analysis has shown that the SAS would not make it onto the scene in time to prevent most of the deaths if terrorists launched a commando-style shooting spree in a major British city.”

Well, guess what? the piddling amount of armed police we have would not make it onto the scene in time to prevent most of the deaths, either. We can’t deal with  a single man rumoured to have access to a knife without sending a pair of armed officers halfway across the county whilst telling all the other officers to stay well clear until the armed officers get there, and then farting around for 4 hours while all the protocol documents are gone through to make sure nobody’s gonna get sued.

I’m not sure what training the SAS can provide which will make the slightest difference to how many UK residents are shot dead if the inevitable happens.

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  1. Ted says:

    The World War 2 Commandos were lightly armed troops trained to attack military targets defended by large numbers of troops and heavy weapons. They relied on courage ,skill, speed, and suprise. I suspect there will be a few of them spinning in their graves when the word commando is being used to describe armed terrorists killing unarmed civilians.

    October 26th, 2010 at 23:21

  2. JohnM says:

    Maybe the armed police, any armed police, may make it onto the scene in time to ensure the attackers do not get on a bus and go home.
    Or not.
    Without information about the location it is hard to see how armed police will deter the attack.
    And it will be even less likely if the attack is not a Mumbai type attack, but a truck full of explosive driven by a nutter.
    Either way, the attack will succeed.

    October 27th, 2010 at 00:19

  3. Oi says:

    Does this mean the SAS has escaped the flailing treasury axe, and is not following the Ark Royal and her pilots to the scrap-heap?

    October 27th, 2010 at 00:30

  4. Hogday says:

    JohnM, you are correct sir. It’s all about prevention, deterrence and damage limitation, pretty much in that order. Armed officers strolling through a crowded airport concourse, carbines on display, are in the worst possible situation for engaging an armed threat if they are to avoid hitting an innocent. Even a verbal challenge has to be considered in the light that it might provoke a shot in their direction, but stroll around they still must.

    October 27th, 2010 at 09:24

  5. Dan Holdsworth says:

    The only easy way to mitigate such an attack, and to make society a great deal more polite, is to routinely permit selected citizens to carry guns routinely. We can learn from the USA here, and permit only guns with biometric security features built in, which fire expanding ammunition and have a relatively small magazine. This makes them relatively useless for going berserk with and killing passers by, but relatively useful as personal defence weapons. As a stopgap measure, permit concealed carry of the muzzle-loading pistols currently allowed under the farcical firearms laws.

    October 27th, 2010 at 10:34

  6. Gary says:

    Now if I was a Terry I think I would look for a soft target that would get maximum ongoing publicity – BBC

    October 27th, 2010 at 19:20

  7. Tony F says:

    And when all said and done, the terrorists only have to be ‘lucky’ once. We have to be ‘lucky’ all the time.

    October 27th, 2010 at 20:04

  8. JuliaM says:

    “I’m not sure what training the SAS can provide which will make the slightest difference to how many UK residents are shot dead if the inevitable happens.”

    You know that. They know that.

    This is the equivalent of those tanks that showed up at Heathrow. It’s show, pure theatre, meant to impress upon the public ‘Look! We’re doing something…’

    October 29th, 2010 at 05:47

  9. Ben says:

    Erm, concealed carry for civillians?

    The one person present at every armed attack is the victim?

    When every second counts, the police are only minutes away?

    Any of this ringing any bells?

    October 31st, 2010 at 00:20

  10. Phil says:

    LOL I would like to see the IPC report on that.

    Police Marksmen 1. “Sir Following my SAS training and keeping to standards learnt I did not try for a leg or arm shot to disable him Nor did I offer any Amrmed Police warning. As per training I did shout as I pulled the trigger “Yippee ki-yay, motherf**ker!” I then emptied half the MP5 mag into his chest then the rest of the mag into the back of his skull as he laid on the floor.”

    November 2nd, 2010 at 10:29

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