September 23rd, 2010

Nothing to do with me

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

So the HMIC has come to the conclusion that police have lost the battle against anti-social behaviour. Well no shit, Sherlock. Some of us have been saying this for years, I wonder  how much it cost the HMIC’s department to come up with that amazing conclusion.

Of course people will be jumping on the bandwagon to blame the police for this catastrophic fall in the standards of public behaviour. The blame lies in a multitude of sectors, all of whom have conspired through neglect & a wanton slavish dedication to an ethos which failed to alert them to the real consequences of a policy which put do-goodism ahead of the rights & needs of a wider society.

It starts at home where a culture of  gimme, gimme, gimme sees children brought up to believe that society owes them everything & they owe nothing. It continues in school when they are taught there are no consequences for their actions as teachers have been increasingly limited powers to deal with poor behaviour, reinforced by tribes of parents who refuse to accept any responsibility for the actions of their children.

It continues through the legal system & the courts with a CPS which encourages, through lack of consequences, yobs to punch police officers by an acceptance that assault in the line of duty is not something to be aghast about but merely an inconvenience to put up with. The legal system shows people that no matter what they do they’ll always get a second chance, a third chance, or a 2oth, 3oth or 40th chance because it costs too much to do anything of real consequence to divert people from crime & anti-social behaviour.

We have a government which places the rights of criminals above the rest of the law-abiding community, where the first phrase an abhorrent teenage scumbag issues on being challenged is ‘you can’t do that, I know my rights.’

We have a generation or more  of adults too scared to intervene when they see unacceptable behaviour, or who just turn their heads because nothing is their problem & it’s always someone else who should be doing something.

We have a police system run by a government which used to have coppers in every community but did away with them & sold all the police houses & thought everything could be measured, which knew the price of everything & the value of nothing, which suddenly realised that actually it was good to have local officers on their beats & has tried to bring them back well after the genie shot out of the bottle & uses it for vote-winning propaganda rather than a committed attempt to retrieve long-lost core values.

Yet somehow, it’s all the fault of the police.

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  1. Baz says:

    You are bang on, could not have put it better myself.

    September 24th, 2010 at 08:18

  2. DrummerBoy says:

    In a military analogy, it’s all well and good have centralised bombers to blow up cities, but it’s boots on every street corner that keeps them, in the long term.

    September 24th, 2010 at 08:57

  3. Hogday says:

    “One Hundred and Eighty” 200.

    Taking your para about the CPS; We both probably made good use of The Town Police Clauses Act ( S.54 (13)Metropolitan Police Act was my London equivalent). It gave us the power to inconvenience people by arresting and charging for `obscene language` etc. A CPS lawyer would see that as totally trivial and a waste of resources, but the truth was it was the invisible line that we could draw in order to apply subtle social controls at a very basic level. Once a few got swifted away for it, a message would start to get put across, ie `Do I really want a night in the cells and a court appearance tomorrow`? I was quite happy to promote the mystery of what, as a copper, I `might` be able to do. That `mystery` was washed away and left in its place was the new answer; `the police can do nothing`

    September 24th, 2010 at 11:54

  4. rafanon says:

    Spot on 200. You should write that on the Government ideas page! It’s the same everywhere though; the old ways are stopped due to oooman rights or elf n safety and then a complete 180 is done when they realiese the old ways worked after all.

    Switch off a lot of the oooman rights and allow the publice to be confident to help themselves. I’ve thought twice about intervening on many occasion (always got stuck in though cos i’m that kind of guy) but i can understand why people don’t. One fight i broke up between 10 year olds in a playground saw one of the fathers come round and give me a mouthful…heaven forbid i stop his kid getting a kick in!

    Anyway, 200 for PM!

    September 24th, 2010 at 16:07

  5. TunaSunrise says:

    Hear, hear.

    September 24th, 2010 at 16:42

  6. Fat Lad says:

    “We have a generation or more of adults too scared to intervene when they see unacceptable behaviour, or who just turn their heads because nothing is their problem & it’s always someone else who should be doing something”.

    I (a MOP)agree with all you say, but please note that “adults too scared to intervene when they see unacceptable behaviour” may well be reluctant to do so because it is THEY who will be arrested, not the scrotes who are the protagonists!

    If I were to be arrested,quite apart from the obvious inconvenience, I am required to report it to my employers, and one consequence of that is that I could well lose my job! I could also (probably would) face prosecution etc. When ordinary, law abiding, people like me could rely on the support of the Police Force (Service?) & the CPS etc – you may find the public support you want.

    September 24th, 2010 at 17:30

  7. Tired and Fed-Up says:

    Top article, 200, totally on the money.

    September 24th, 2010 at 17:55

  8. Ex-Peeler says:

    Spot on, yet again 200

    September 24th, 2010 at 18:01

  9. Tony F says:

    Same boat as Fat Lad. Though I might get a bit of lee way, cos I often help the police with their enquiries.. (CCTV engineer)

    September 24th, 2010 at 21:10

  10. Plodnomore says:

    Woiuld this HMIC be the same bloke who used to run Surrey Police and endorsed the ‘partnership’ principle where so many other agencies were involved in the decision making process that very little was actually achieved? A friend of mine who was in that force used to tell me of the extra admin and paperwork required to keep all the relevant partners happy was a factor is sone many leaving to join the Met.

    September 25th, 2010 at 21:05

  11. shijuronotgeorgedixon says:

    I am waiting for the Police to be blamed for:

    The Titanic disaster; WW1; WW2; Apollo 13


    September 28th, 2010 at 10:23

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