May 14th, 2010

Its all a bit O/T

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

Another day, another Daily Fail article slagging off the police.

This time its because the overtime bill has doubled in the last 10 years is now at 400 million of our English Pounds. This despite the fact that we also have an additional 15,000 police officers & 16,000 PCSOs. The Centre for Criminal Justice Studies at Kings College, London, noted that this did not bring about the ‘expected decline in overtime’.

The Fail uses its normal sensationalist bullshit by starting off the item: “Police are using dishonest methods to boost their pay.”

In the first 3 sentences it accuses the police of using ‘dishonesty’, ‘tricks’ & ‘Spanish practices’ to blag extra cash. Presumably the editor hasn’t done a diversity course recently having just slagged off the nation of Spain.

The examples it gives include where an officer is entitled to claim 4 hours overtime at time & a third for taking a phone call off duty &  making a decision. It doesn’t mention that the vast majority of calls to off duty staff are to senior officers of inspector level or  above who are not entitled to overtime payments since the government bought out their entitlement several years ago. I’d suggest the cost implications of this type of overtime would be negligable.

They also criticise the way police officers are entitled to double time or a day off in lieue for working a bank holiday, clearly they should be tipping their hat to the bosses for the opprtunity to leave the kids to open their presents on their own on Christmas Day, year after year, without suitable recompense while almost everyone else gets a free day off work.

The Fail is apoplectic with rage that officers can ‘dishonestly’ claim extra money when their rest day is cancelled with less than 5 days notice. Presumably they are not content with the fact that officers days off can be changed willy-nilly without compensation& a bit of notice & feel that police officers should just do whatever they are told, when they are told &  be grateful for the opportunity.

I have checked out the same story at the BBC News website, Guardian, Telegraph & Channel 4 websites who all report the details of the original report in a factual way, strangely none of them accuse the police of dishonesty, tricks or Spanish practices, except the Daily Mail, so no change there, then.

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  1. john says:

    And everyone thought that electing a gov [slightly] to the right of the previous would be a new start ?
    Seems like more of a new-start to the old-rubbish….More Of The Same Just Worded Differently

    May 15th, 2010 at 08:12

  2. john says:

    Read IG.
    Same subject.

    May 15th, 2010 at 08:13

  3. rafanon says:

    Go get ‘em 200!

    Although we privaledged few in the military get no extra for being bounced from pillar to post.

    We get paid 24/7, 365 and can be told to change plans at an hour’s notice let alone 5 days without thanks let alone compensation! But, I wouldn’t change it for the world!

    Get all you can guy’s. I don’t begrudge anyone for getting what’s owed.

    May 15th, 2010 at 10:39

  4. Tony F says:

    rafanon, yup, it was just the same when I was in too.. Plus the added bonus of being shot at.

    May 15th, 2010 at 19:24

  5. Blueknight says:

    The Police job is like no other. I would like to think that the newspaper stories were due to the reporters ignorance of the overtime regulations. Where are the Federation who should be putting the record straight?

    May 15th, 2010 at 21:34

  6. Ted says:

    Of course they miss the fact that for a job like policing which has to cope with varying demands 24/7 overtime can be an efficient way of spending money. The overtime can be used to cover peaks in demand like weekend nights, demonstrations, and so on. Unlike employing more police officers an overtime budget is never off sick, never on holiday, never injured, never pregnant, and it isn’t pensionable.

    So for flexibility it is actually far better to have a police force of for example 1000 cops with and OT budget of another 10% of salary than to have a force of 1100 cops. That 10% OT budget gets used exactly when and where it is needed and 30 years down the line the pension bill is 10% or so smaller.

    Now what the correct percentage of pay budget should be overtime is open to debate and no doubt should vary from place to place but overtime is not a bad thing.

    As for abolishing OT for cops and Sgts like they did for Inspectors? It wouldn’t work. I would forsee cops handing in their firearms and public order tickets. I suspect they might have problems getting in contact with off duty cops. Why pick the phone up when it might be an order to go to work for unpaid overtime. Then where is the incentive to go the extra mile locking people up when your days off are then constantly ruined by court citations AND no compensation.

    May 15th, 2010 at 22:23

  7. Civ_In_The_City says:

    Maybe now Brown, Blair (and more importantly) Campbell have been shown the door perhaps the media will retrace their steps a bit. The rise of Paxman style interrogations (quick-fire questions akin to what the average bloke in the street is thinking – but not leaving the interviewee time to respond coherently) was in direct response to the realisation that no serving MP EVER answered a direct question, resorting instead to public relations-speak. Whole interviews weren`t providing insights or information, they were simply giving those in power a few minutes to dish out some more spin and bullsh*t.

    The same interview style filtered down to local news services as well.

    The media have to take a lead in the new politics and new respect agenda. Time to put some substance and FACTS back into circulation and NOT statistics, soundbites, catchphrases, pre-announced announcements and the like.

    It was in the interest of Nu-Labour to cover up the truth, to try to convince us that personal opinions were worth more than demonstrable facts, hopefully Cameron and Clegg will take a lesson from this.

    May 16th, 2010 at 11:21

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