February 11th, 2010

Shocking Decision

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

Blimey, the people who run the IPCC must be turning in their graves, if they were dead. Another lengthy iunvestigation into police brutality comes up in support of the police, wonders will never cease.

Back in June 2009, I posted about a case which reached trial by YouTube when a taxi driver filmed officers in Nottingham arresting a violent, drunken thug & tasering several times. Naturally, on a blog dedicated to policing in the UK, the officers involved received more understanding from visitors to 200Weeks than from the wider community. The wider response – see the comments by ‘Sam’ on the original blog entry – was uproar about police brutality & abuse of power.

The IPCC doesn’t appear to agree. They have announced, after a full investigation,  that: “The overall evidence suggests that it was necessary for the officer to activate his Taser several times due to the continued and escalating resistance being demonstrated.

Officers have a right to protect themselves and deal robustly with unruly behaviour while policing a busy city centre at night.”

It concluded that the officers’ actions were lawful and proportionate and there was no evidence of any criminal offence being committed.

Yet again, it’s a shame it took 8 months to investigate. It doesn’t take this long elsewhere.

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  1. boy on a bike says:

    I don’t understand why it takes any more than a week to reach that conclusion. in fact I reckon it should take no more than 24 hours. You either charge the officers the following shift, or you give them a medal. Make up your mind, and make it up quickly. Be decisive. Action this day!

    February 12th, 2010 at 01:29

  2. shijuro says:

    well- my PSD case is STILL going after ONE YEAR!!!

    still, could be worse…

    February 12th, 2010 at 10:56

  3. Pc A Hunn says:

    In the mean time the poor cops involved will have been stuck in some shite office job, doped up on antidepressants, suffering sleepless nights, stress induced family problems, feeling ostricised, paranoid with their life in limbo. They’ll have had a reduced SPP, no overtime and so will have suffered financialy too. All for doing their job, as they were trained to do. Even though there are no criminal charges they may well be punished under dicipline regs (balance of probs) for use of excessive force.

    When they go back they’ll feel betrayed, bitter and demotivated. Again all for doing their jobs.

    The time scales for these investigations are excessive. Often we can bring murder cases to trial in less time. It is grossly unfair to the officers involved.

    February 12th, 2010 at 13:22

  4. Ted says:

    Funnily enough I’ve reached my late 40s and despite spending a fair number of weekends in city centres I’ve never yet been beaten up by the police.

    I’ve also never had my wallet lightened by those money making machines, the speed cameras.

    I wonder if this is connected to the fact I just by and large obey the law of the land. The odd time I have been stopped or stop searched by the police I’ve been polite, accepted they were just doing their job, and been on my way again within a couple of minutes.

    February 12th, 2010 at 15:09

  5. Shijuro says:

    Taser is designed to inflict pain and suffering: not much use if it didn’t eh mtg?

    What are we supposed to use against violent people ? Harsh language?

    February 12th, 2010 at 23:39

  6. Blueknight says:

    That’s not the same Amnesty International as this is it?

    A SENIOR official at Amnesty International has accused the charity of putting the human rights of Al-Qaeda terror suspects above those of their victims.
    Gita Sahgal, head of the gender unit at Amnesty’s international secretariat, believes that collaborating with Moazzam Begg, a former British inmate at Guantanamo Bay, “fundamentally damages” the organisation’s reputation.

    Nothing to see here.Try Zimbabwe

    February 12th, 2010 at 23:42

  7. shijuro says:

    too true blue- I would have much more respect for Am INT if they went to places that ACTUALLY needed them…

    Mind you- they seem to have ignored the truth that in order for organisations like AI to exist and function- they need to be in a country that already has a fair amount of citizen protection…

    they remind me of a Doctor that is making a BIG issue of highlighting skin allergy problems when he is in a hospital where people are dying of plague…

    they do good work – but they need to do it in places that need it…

    February 13th, 2010 at 12:35

  8. TheBinarySurfer says:

    Haven’t commented for quite a long time 200, but still read your blog fairly frequently.

    You can’t win either way 200 weeks. If you taser you’re “torturing” the poor bugger, and if you baton them you’re “beating” them, and if you get the shit kicked out of you you’re “cowardly”. The IPCC sometimes does good work, more often than not it’s a lefty crock (just look at the panels and senior staff within it) of s***.

    As usual MTG is spouting his usual thinly-veiled anti-police rhetoric. But given that he’s a failed huddersfield politician local council wannabe, a failed “rights group” organiser, and given the road he lives on in Huddersfield he’ll clearly fall into the far left camp that view any informed pro-police opinion as “attacking” him.

    February 13th, 2010 at 23:25

  9. shijuro says:

    MTG- do you ever get tired of spouting your bull? pretentious oaf…

    Binary- the man is nothing more than a troll… plain and simple…

    February 14th, 2010 at 12:04

  10. anon says:

    Bender the robot, copper bottom, bender bottom (he never tires of fresh pseudonyms) sports his latest tin foil creation with ‘shijuro’.

    February 14th, 2010 at 13:51

  11. TheBinarySurfer says:

    Shijuro – he’s not even a good troll or an intelligent one; steals random exercepts via google (put his posts into any search engine you can usually find out where he’s stolen them from), puts his home address on the internet (again, 5 minutes work with a knowledge of boolean search and google – that’s not a good idea even if you aren’t a moron with a habit of insulting people), and is apparently (judging by his homophobic comments) also a gay-hating bigot.

    February 14th, 2010 at 14:08

  12. shijuro says:

    anon is a troll too… and one that doesnt even have the guts to post his name…

    lol… burke.

    February 14th, 2010 at 16:05

  13. shijuro says:

    binary- yeah, I see what you mean… failed wannabe from Huddersfield… lol…

    anon- not sure what you are on about…

    except that you are a troll… and you are doing what trolls do… sit beneath a bridge and piss people off…

    February 14th, 2010 at 16:10

  14. JosephK says:

    As a man who has endured a 5 1/2 year PSD and IPCC investigation for a ‘simple’ allegation of excessive force, only to be told all the evidence ( CAD tapes, PAVA logs, use of force reports, notebooks et al) are ‘not available’.
    I would suggest that 8 months is pretty darn speedy. I think anyone hitting an officer is investigated slightly quicker is just due to a perk of the job ;)

    February 15th, 2010 at 17:50

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