January 21st, 2010

About Turn

Posted in The Job - Comment by 200

I posted here, here & here about the case of Munir Hussain who was jailed for 30 months for assaulting a burglar he chased from his home after being tied up & threatened with death.

I argued that whilst it was right to prosecute Mr Hussain, on the basis of the level of injury caused, a prison sentence wasn’t the correct result. I’m pleased to see the High Court agrees & yesterday he had his sentence replaced with a one-years suspended sentence. He served five weeks in prison. It’s a shame the court couldn’t have gotten it right in the first place.

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  1. bender the robot says:

    ‘There is a point where intentional distorion of a case presented by a criminal defence lawyer (and those acting in collusion with him/her) is so perverse that it amounts to criminal offence(s) in itself’

    err.. yes- its called perverting the course of justice.

    since someone was nearly killed- it needed court action.

    However, when you have been tied up at knife point and facing the possibility of death… your blood is apt to run hot… hot enough to kill..

    it a shame that the original court couldnt have seen that…

    I speak honestly- I am not sure what my response or actions would be if someone tied me and my sons up – i do know it wouldnt be nice…

    January 22nd, 2010 at 15:35

  2. anon says:

    It is an easy task is to imagine being a whole lot smarter than bender the boaster, with his claimed genius IQ level of 139.

    It requires a little thought to imagine more than one offence for the defence lawyer, or how one might act in a given situation.

    January 22nd, 2010 at 16:52

  3. Civ_In_The_City says:

    I know the argument about having to punish the householder for ‘taking the law into his own hands’, as they can`t be seen to be setting a precedent by letting him/her go.

    It`s also the usual routine to trot out a senior officer to say that sort of thing is left to the police.

    Those excuses are getting bit tired now.

    NuLabour would have us believe that the intruders rights to life and liberty are as precious as those of the householder. Even during the commission of a crime.

    What that feels like to hard-working tax-paying householders is that despite a knife-wielding druggy ransacking your house while your wife and toddlers are asleep, if you are discovered sitting on his head when plod arrives it will probably be YOU that is arrested and taken into custody.

    That can`t be right.

    But the ‘can`t take the law into your own hands’ brigade and the ‘every sperm is precious’ brigade have vociferously insisted that we are all equal regardless of how badly we behave. Indeed they would scrap the idea of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ completely if they could.

    So solidly have they stuck to this principle, and for so long, that in our media age of black and white reporting, the merest hint of not following through to the ultimate degree of the law in every case will appear to be an officially sanctioned licence to kill for every Englishman in his castle.

    Their demand for equality and fairness for all has made it impossible for them to adjust any extremes of the law for fear of creating another inequality.

    January 22nd, 2010 at 21:35

  4. joe says:

    Shoot the bastards – just shoot them – shoot them all. Ideal but too complicated for us.

    I’ve had the oxygen thieves break into my home office, and turn over two cars parked on my drive within a week. I am 90% certain I know who did the latter (he’s got an MO for the area going back at least 5 years). And if by any remote chance they’re caught ………..

    January 22nd, 2010 at 23:37

  5. bender the robot says:

    anon- I mean melv… dont you pretend to be doctor?

    Trolls like you should just feck off…

    is there even a name for what’s wrong with you?

    At least I really do have an IQ of 139.

    January 22nd, 2010 at 23:46

  6. bender the robot says:

    and if you dont beleive me anon- I mean melv…i had tests on the best mashines along brighton pier

    inteligence tester…139 genius

    hammerjack strength test…70 strongman, not to be messed wiv

    lurv meter…highly romantic

    January 23rd, 2010 at 09:11

  7. bill says:

    Melv., I’m as thick as two planks but still managed a score of 136.

    If these kind of scores impress you as being genius level, well then, what does it say about your score?

    Go on, do tell.

    January 23rd, 2010 at 19:30

  8. bender the robot says:

    What Is A Troll?

    The term derives from “trolling”, a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.

    Usually, it will fail, as the troll rarely bothers to match the tone or style of the group, and usually its ignorance shows.

    Why do trolls do it?

    I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

    Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

    For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

    Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

    Remember that trolls are cowards; they’ll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that’s what they do!).

    Troll – Angler or Underbridge Dweller?

    How can troll posts be recognised?

    No Imagination – Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses’ groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not.
    Pedantic in the Extreme – Many trolls’ preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail – the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done.
    False Identity – Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own!
    Crossposting – Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that?
    Off-topic posting – Often genuine errors, but, if from an ‘outsider’ they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it’s a troll post, you have denied it its reward.
    Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll – or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective.
    Missing The Point – Trolls rarely answer a direct question – they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle – so they develop a fine line in missing the point.
    Thick or Sad – Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation.

    Who is at risk?

    Any newsgroup, bulletin board, forum or chatroom can attract trolls, but they don’t have the brains to attack nuclear physicists, and they are drawn to the quick response where sex, religion and race are found; so politics is easy prey.

    One troll famously tried to infiltrate a mensa group; the results read like 100 trolls and one regular, it didn’t have a chance – but it was stupid enough to persist until removed.

    When Should You Be Concerned?

    Usually, no, though fractured funny bones and occasional waves of nausea have been reported.

    When a troll become persistent and personal, you may need to consider the possibility that it has fermented into an Internet Stalker – equally pathetic, if not more so – but sometimes requiring weedkiller.

    January 25th, 2010 at 18:57

  9. tobor the curler says:

    Fingers crossed PCSO bender is denied weapons other than his blunt pencil.

    January 25th, 2010 at 21:01

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