February 1st, 2007

There are some right Arseholes about

Posted in The Job - Experience by 200

There are some people who, just before they open their mouth, you know are going to seriously wind you up. It’s the expression on their face, the way they walk towards you, you just know they’re going to be grief.

So you’re in the town somewhere trying to put a containment on a group of streets with other colleagues. The dog handler is out trying to find a track and the force chopper is circling overhead using its heat-seeking camera to try and locate the guy who’s just attacked a lass in an alleyway not 15 minutes ago.

You know it’s going to happen, it usually does when the helicopter is out. Someone rings up to complain about the noise. Occasionally they actually have the bottle to come out and complain face to face.

So you’re watching 3 streets in case matey-boy runs across one of them, listening for movement, noises, dogs barking, and signs that someone has disturbed someone or something. You hear a door slam and look round to see some arse storming towards you in a coat, bare legs and shoes not laced up.

"Do you really need that thing, people are trying to sleep here?"

You ignore it and turn back but he just keeps coming, oblivious that you are trying to do your job.

"Excuse me, I’ve got to be up at 7am, isn’t it illegal for that thing to fly 50 feet above the houses?"

"It probably is but that helicopter is not 50 feet above your house it’s a thousand feet or more."

"Well it’s just not good enough, disturbing the whole neighbourhood like this."

And then they put in the one-liner which they think will actually make a difference. It can vary but is usually someone or some position they think is very important and thus deserving of selective treatment over and above anyone else.

"I’m a solicitor."

Lots of thoughts run through your mind, most of them will get you into trouble if you say them.

"Well then when we catch the bastard who’s just tried to rape a girl who might have been your daughter, we’ll give you a call and you can some and defend him."

"I don’t like your attitude, the chief constable will be hearing about this."

"Good, now fuck off."

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  1. Gonorr says:

    Good point, well presented ;-p

    February 1st, 2007 at 07:14

  2. Hurricane says:

    People just don’t care. If I was keep awake by a Police helicopter I’d assume it was for a good reason!

    February 1st, 2007 at 19:22

  3. gen public says:

    i understand it from your point of view

    really i do

    but i have been trying to sleep in a house in one of our big cities where a police helicopter came and sat 10 feet above the house night after night after night for about a week, i really cannot imagine any genuine reason why they would do this

    i didnt ring and complain, but i sure was grumpy after a few nights not sleeping

    i dont think its the way to win the hearts and minds of the public

    February 4th, 2007 at 19:55

  4. extraspecialcopper says:

    Good point sir, I shall call the helicopter off – after all it is your car we have located with your daughter being kidnapped in [exageration]

    I hate idiots like this

    February 6th, 2007 at 10:24

  5. The Naked Cop says:

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    Nice job!

    February 8th, 2007 at 12:05

  6. 200 says:

    gen public,

    I could have some sympathy but you went with the ‘helicopter 10 feet above my house line’. I don’t think so.

    February 8th, 2007 at 21:32

  7. gen public says:

    well i suggest you talk to the crew of the manchester copter and ask them how high they fly, cos it sure aint much higher than 10 foot, they are a disgrace and win you guys no friends

    February 9th, 2007 at 16:59

  8. Stan Still says:

    With friends as daft as Gen Public, who needs enemies?

    If the chopper doesn’t fly much higher than 10 feet, how does it manage to hover over your average two storey house, which is at least 30 feet tall?

    What a bizarre comment – complete cobblers!

    February 9th, 2007 at 19:17

  9. Stan Still says:

    Sorry Gen – posted that reply before I read your other daft comment.

    If the chopper flew 10 feet above your house, it would not be able to see very much, would it? Unless of course they are doing it just to annoy you?

    February 9th, 2007 at 19:20

  10. 200 says:

    gen public,

    if there was any truth in what you say I’m very surprised you haven’t captured the event on your mobile phone video and emailed it to the BBC, YouTube & Civil Aviation Authority – there’s got to be some cash in it for you.

    February 9th, 2007 at 20:31

  11. Gonorr says:

    Got it, maybe he thinks it was ten foot off the top of his drum, because, (getting rude here) he thinks he has a twelve incher whilst his girlie swears blind its a two inch? ;-p


    Although exempt, I don’t think being ten foot off a roof will enable the night sun or the thermal cam to work to the best advantage.
    I know the local force don’t do the “Ride of the Valkyries”.

    February 12th, 2007 at 18:55

  12. Geeza says:

    I’m lucky enough to live between the air ambulance base and the local air sea rescue, in rural location (so some of the low flying rules go out the window). Whenever I get awoken by police, ambo or SAR choppers I have the same thought that I express to Mrs. Geeza. “Some poor bastard needs help”

    Do people honestly think these things are done for fun? Good luck to you lads, keep doing what you’re doing and make as much noise as you need.

    February 16th, 2007 at 17:20

  13. gen public says:

    i dont know try and give a little feedback and all you get is grief

    why oh why do coppers have to be so defensive all the time

    February 17th, 2007 at 16:33

  14. 200 says:

    gen pub,

    to be fair it wasn’t really ‘feedback’ on my article it was a criticism of the GMP helicopter.

    You’d expect us to be a little defensive about comments which are either lies or exaggeration. (in relation to the height the chopper flies at above your house)

    All you needed to say was that it woke you up, we’d have believed that, it wakes up loads of people. It’s when people try and up their viewpoint with little (incorrect) added detail…

    February 17th, 2007 at 17:57

  15. gen public says:

    do you really expect me to stand there with a tape measure figuring out how high it is?

    it is enough that the whole house shakes, and it looks a lot closer than the target on the end of a 25 m range, we are have a disagreement about precise height? thats not the issue, the constant disturbance night after night is

    i like the way the somerset copter has a web site that tells folk why it has actually been in an area, at least then there is a chance the public have a clue why their sleep is being disturbed night after night

    February 17th, 2007 at 19:43

  16. 200 says:

    Gen Pub,

    so the crux of the matter is that it disturbs your sleep. At least if you’d been upfront about that instead of trying to make it sound much more dramatic than it actually is.

    Tell me though, if it was your daughter who’d been raped in an alleyway, how serious would you be taking the complaints about being woken up at night while the police tried to catch the person who’d done it.
    Despite the thoughts of some people, the helicopter isn’t actually there to wind up the general populace, it’s there because it is the most efficient and effective way to catch bad guys and find vulnerable people. Sometimes in life there are penalties to our own comfort which are worth paying for the greater good.
    If you could just be honest and admit that your sleep is more important than the needs of others we can move on from the topic.

    But thanks for your continued replies. It’s boosting my comment figure and at least making me think people actually read this site. Maybe that’s a good idea to put info on the force website, but I doubt it would stop the complaints coming in at 3 in the morning when the chopper’s up.

    February 17th, 2007 at 23:15

  17. gen public says:

    I dont think my sleep in more important than catching a major criminal such as a rapist

    But I do think the odds are unlikley that a copter over the same house night after night is doing any investigation into rape

    You are choosing to argue with me, a person who should be a natural police supporter, and you are being very defensive

    The harsh realities are that often a copter is over a location for much more trivial reasons, and often at the whim of the crew

    I repeat the web site the somerset copter crew have is great, and should be rolled out nationally for all police copters, cos giving the public some insight into the rationale for the copter being where is was that night helps keep the public on side, and yes then there should be come form of checks and balances in the system to stop any repeated disturbance, at the moment there is no balance in this system

    February 24th, 2007 at 16:58

  18. 200 says:

    gen public,

    I’m not choosing to argue with you, I just don’t believe you. And I agree that the Somerset website might be helpful, that’s not arguing, is it? Oh, that last bit might be….

    February 24th, 2007 at 18:49

  19. gen public says:

    “I just don’t believe you”

    poor old cynical copper

    i know you deal with scum day in day out, but some of us are OK out here

    ah well

    February 24th, 2007 at 22:53

  20. 200 says:

    gen public,

    you don’t have to be in this job for as long as I have to be cynical; a few months will do it.

    I’ve not suggested you are scum, nor, even though there is a hefty amount about, would I suggest most of our customers are such. And I do value your contributions to my humble blog.

    February 25th, 2007 at 16:51

  21. doc says:


    November 20th, 2007 at 05:51

  22. Aitchy says:

    I know I’m 18 months too late but I’ve only just discovered the blog. It’s just the last line in the post, really tickled me, so for the first time ever I’m leaving a comment. Thanks, and keep up the good work.

    June 8th, 2010 at 11:59

  23. ACB says:

    and I too will say I am busy catching up on the blogs as I have found them a year after Aitchy! I am the wife of a policeman, a mother of a policeman and an Aunt to two policemen and am loving the blog, it reflects what I hear moaned about! Keep it up.

    June 4th, 2011 at 22:56

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