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		<title>By: 200</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-27711</link>
		<dc:creator>200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and guess what sam spam.... I ain&#039;t publishing your last one either. 3 potential examples of misuse of taser (in the UK?) is proof of your evidence appearing &quot;daily&quot; is it, tsk tsk, must do better.

now run along &amp; pollute someone else&#039;s blog with your filth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and guess what sam spam&#8230;. I ain&#8217;t publishing your last one either. 3 potential examples of misuse of taser (in the UK?) is proof of your evidence appearing &#8220;daily&#8221; is it, tsk tsk, must do better.</p>
<p>now run along &#038; pollute someone else&#8217;s blog with your filth.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-27691</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so you didn&#039;t publish my last commentary then? 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you didn&#8217;t publish my last commentary then?</p>
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		<title>By: 200</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-27076</link>
		<dc:creator>200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll take that as an inability to prove your point through lack of evidence, then.

By my reckoning there must have been 8 new videos of officers misusing taser since your comment, not to mention the hundreds of previous ones, you having trouble finding them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take that as an inability to prove your point through lack of evidence, then.</p>
<p>By my reckoning there must have been 8 new videos of officers misusing taser since your comment, not to mention the hundreds of previous ones, you having trouble finding them?</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post my last comment, I cannot be bothered writing it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post my last comment, I cannot be bothered writing it again.</p>
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		<title>By: 200</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-26725</link>
		<dc:creator>200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sammy,

I may be stupid but I know the difference between &quot;your&quot; and &quot;you&#039;re&quot;.

I love your oh so simplistic approach &quot;If he’s violent, he needs to be taken into a drying out clinic and helped&quot;. Unfortunately a pat on the head &amp; a bit of friendly guidance doesn&#039;t often work with extremely violent drunks &amp; you seem to have conveniently forgotten that this was not just a simple drunk, this was someone who used so much violence on a police officer that they were GBH&#039;d, yes Grievous Bodily Harm, not a friendly slap round the face. I love it when people who don&#039;t have to put their own arse on the line instruct others on the best way to deal with violent people.

Perhaps you&#039;d care to provide links to these hundreds of misuse of Taser vids which appear &quot;every day&quot; maybe the ones which have appeared in the last 14 days in the UK would be a start...off you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sammy,</p>
<p>I may be stupid but I know the difference between &#8220;your&#8221; and &#8220;you&#8217;re&#8221;.</p>
<p>I love your oh so simplistic approach &#8220;If he’s violent, he needs to be taken into a drying out clinic and helped&#8221;. Unfortunately a pat on the head &#038; a bit of friendly guidance doesn&#8217;t often work with extremely violent drunks &#038; you seem to have conveniently forgotten that this was not just a simple drunk, this was someone who used so much violence on a police officer that they were GBH&#8217;d, yes Grievous Bodily Harm, not a friendly slap round the face. I love it when people who don&#8217;t have to put their own arse on the line instruct others on the best way to deal with violent people.</p>
<p>Perhaps you&#8217;d care to provide links to these hundreds of misuse of Taser vids which appear &#8220;every day&#8221; maybe the ones which have appeared in the last 14 days in the UK would be a start&#8230;off you go.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-26717</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officer Jack, why won&#039;t they get respect?  Do coppers have to be violent and authoratitive for that?  If they&#039;re getting him legless through drink it&#039;s immoral, but it&#039;s moral to shock him several times or until he&#039;s dead, whichever comes first?  I don&#039;t even condone drinking and I think my idea would work wonders for relations. 

The public isn&#039;t getting more dangerous, the police are.  Rough trip to the back of the van; fair enough, but 50,000 volt shocks 2-3 times along with digs for kicking off with the bouncer and then &quot;failing to obey&quot;? are you for real?

Officer Joe, imho, you haven&#039;t been tasered for failing to obey a command yet. Tasers aren&#039;t just being used on violent criminals and drunken thugs as youtube, liveleak and other prominent sites are showing every day.  The simple act of telling a copper to do one might be enough to get you tasered.  It&#039;s already happening in other countries, only a matter of time before it&#039;s commonplace here.   

Officer rafanon.   Nothing justifies torture. NOTHING.  You cannot make the excuse that he was drinking irresponsibly because drinking is an irresponsible act that is completely legitimate and supported by the UK Government.  There is no safe amount of alcohol; drinkers will act in unpredictable ways, that is well known and well documented.  What the Government did, was to pretty much deregulate the use of alchohol, so 24 hour drinking is now possible, thus creating more scenarios of drunken disorderly behaviour, trips to a&amp;e, DUI and deaths.  If he&#039;s violent, he needs to be taken into a drying out clinic and helped, not tasered multiple times and punched.

All you people know this is natural progression from justification for use against violent criminals and as a last resort to the first port of call in any incident that may or may not turn violent..  It&#039;s already the case in America that average citizens who are simply disgruntled are tasered for &#039;failing to obey&#039;, that coppers are using it if they&#039;re having a bad day and sometimes they just want to pull the thing out and fire because they don&#039;t like you. 

Times reports on 02/09/2007, &#039;Police have been given the go-ahead to use Taser stun guns against children.  The relaxing of restrictions on the use of the weapons comes despite warnings that they could trigger a heart attack in youngsters.&#039;

The Register reports taser gun usage soaring: &#039;the real figure for Taser use across the UK since last year is not the Home Office headliner of 252 uses with 31 stunnings. Buried in the relevant pdfs, we find that there were 705 usages from last July to February, including 155 discharges with barbs fired and a further 33 &quot;drive stun&quot; shockings. Suspects were shocked 27 per cent of the time when Tasers were drawn.&#039;

Either all your commentators work for the police and are completely lost to humane acts, or all your all deluded into believing the country is a much more violent place than it was 20 years ago and that taser use is therefore justified to deal with the greater threat, which it isn&#039;t and isn&#039;t.   Tasers are dangerous weapons, full stop, use on that civilian was unjustified, full stop.  Use on any civilian is unjustified, full stop.  

The Full Stop campaign should be extended to protect victims of such State terrorism and teach you lot a thing or two about the realities of the world around you. 

officer 200:  Your just stupid aren&#039;t you? You must work for GiMP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officer Jack, why won&#8217;t they get respect?  Do coppers have to be violent and authoratitive for that?  If they&#8217;re getting him legless through drink it&#8217;s immoral, but it&#8217;s moral to shock him several times or until he&#8217;s dead, whichever comes first?  I don&#8217;t even condone drinking and I think my idea would work wonders for relations. </p>
<p>The public isn&#8217;t getting more dangerous, the police are.  Rough trip to the back of the van; fair enough, but 50,000 volt shocks 2-3 times along with digs for kicking off with the bouncer and then &#8220;failing to obey&#8221;? are you for real?</p>
<p>Officer Joe, imho, you haven&#8217;t been tasered for failing to obey a command yet. Tasers aren&#8217;t just being used on violent criminals and drunken thugs as youtube, liveleak and other prominent sites are showing every day.  The simple act of telling a copper to do one might be enough to get you tasered.  It&#8217;s already happening in other countries, only a matter of time before it&#8217;s commonplace here.   </p>
<p>Officer rafanon.   Nothing justifies torture. NOTHING.  You cannot make the excuse that he was drinking irresponsibly because drinking is an irresponsible act that is completely legitimate and supported by the UK Government.  There is no safe amount of alcohol; drinkers will act in unpredictable ways, that is well known and well documented.  What the Government did, was to pretty much deregulate the use of alchohol, so 24 hour drinking is now possible, thus creating more scenarios of drunken disorderly behaviour, trips to a&amp;e, DUI and deaths.  If he&#8217;s violent, he needs to be taken into a drying out clinic and helped, not tasered multiple times and punched.</p>
<p>All you people know this is natural progression from justification for use against violent criminals and as a last resort to the first port of call in any incident that may or may not turn violent..  It&#8217;s already the case in America that average citizens who are simply disgruntled are tasered for &#8216;failing to obey&#8217;, that coppers are using it if they&#8217;re having a bad day and sometimes they just want to pull the thing out and fire because they don&#8217;t like you. </p>
<p>Times reports on 02/09/2007, &#8216;Police have been given the go-ahead to use Taser stun guns against children.  The relaxing of restrictions on the use of the weapons comes despite warnings that they could trigger a heart attack in youngsters.&#8217;</p>
<p>The Register reports taser gun usage soaring: &#8216;the real figure for Taser use across the UK since last year is not the Home Office headliner of 252 uses with 31 stunnings. Buried in the relevant pdfs, we find that there were 705 usages from last July to February, including 155 discharges with barbs fired and a further 33 &#8220;drive stun&#8221; shockings. Suspects were shocked 27 per cent of the time when Tasers were drawn.&#8217;</p>
<p>Either all your commentators work for the police and are completely lost to humane acts, or all your all deluded into believing the country is a much more violent place than it was 20 years ago and that taser use is therefore justified to deal with the greater threat, which it isn&#8217;t and isn&#8217;t.   Tasers are dangerous weapons, full stop, use on that civilian was unjustified, full stop.  Use on any civilian is unjustified, full stop.  </p>
<p>The Full Stop campaign should be extended to protect victims of such State terrorism and teach you lot a thing or two about the realities of the world around you. </p>
<p>officer 200:  Your just stupid aren&#8217;t you? You must work for GiMP.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-26518</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi sam,

I don&#039;t think the Police are going to gain the respect of the public by buying violent hooligans &quot;a couple of shots of vodka&quot; and letting them pass out. It&#039;s irresponsible service of alcohol for a start, and even a bartender shouldn&#039;t do that.

If someone gets violent and hits a copper, or anyone else. Then they are going to get the rough trip to the back of the van. If you or anyone else wants to go around punching people and expect the police to protect your dignity, then you&#039;re quite frankly, an absolute moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi sam,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the Police are going to gain the respect of the public by buying violent hooligans &#8220;a couple of shots of vodka&#8221; and letting them pass out. It&#8217;s irresponsible service of alcohol for a start, and even a bartender shouldn&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>If someone gets violent and hits a copper, or anyone else. Then they are going to get the rough trip to the back of the van. If you or anyone else wants to go around punching people and expect the police to protect your dignity, then you&#8217;re quite frankly, an absolute moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-26136</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam

He was on the floor after being tasered once (and you&#039;ll note still fighting); in the opinion of the officer on the spot (and that officer will face being questioned on the legitimacy of his decision by those with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight) he required a second jolt after he was down to subdue him, which is what you see in the film clip. 

Actually it is a demonstration of the ability of an aggressive person high on drink and/or drugs to keep fighting regardless of the punishment they have taken. There&#039;s lots of research on this and it can be very, very difficult to subdue someone in this state even if you&#039;re not hidebound by minimum force rules (one of the reasons for the popularity of larger caliber pistols amongst law enforcement personel in the US where .38 and 9mm just wasn&#039;t stopping assailants hopped up on dope and drink). IMHO everything in the clip was all within the scope of reasonable force. As to justification see rafanon post above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam</p>
<p>He was on the floor after being tasered once (and you&#8217;ll note still fighting); in the opinion of the officer on the spot (and that officer will face being questioned on the legitimacy of his decision by those with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight) he required a second jolt after he was down to subdue him, which is what you see in the film clip. </p>
<p>Actually it is a demonstration of the ability of an aggressive person high on drink and/or drugs to keep fighting regardless of the punishment they have taken. There&#8217;s lots of research on this and it can be very, very difficult to subdue someone in this state even if you&#8217;re not hidebound by minimum force rules (one of the reasons for the popularity of larger caliber pistols amongst law enforcement personel in the US where .38 and 9mm just wasn&#8217;t stopping assailants hopped up on dope and drink). IMHO everything in the clip was all within the scope of reasonable force. As to justification see rafanon post above.</p>
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		<title>By: rafanon</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-26108</link>
		<dc:creator>rafanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, Interesting perspective.  Complete bo***cks but interesting nontheless.

If abusing revellers, abusing and assaulting door staff and then abusing the police is a &quot;normal night out&quot; then i&#039;m afraid he (and by proxy you) deserve all the Tasers he gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, Interesting perspective.  Complete bo***cks but interesting nontheless.</p>
<p>If abusing revellers, abusing and assaulting door staff and then abusing the police is a &#8220;normal night out&#8221; then i&#8217;m afraid he (and by proxy you) deserve all the Tasers he gets.</p>
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		<title>By: 200</title>
		<link>http://200weeks.police999.com/archives/1657/comment-page-1#comment-26093</link>
		<dc:creator>200</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nurse....Nurse....NURSE!!...Sam&#039;s out of bed! 

Do you feel better for that now, sammy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nurse&#8230;.Nurse&#8230;.NURSE!!&#8230;Sam&#8217;s out of bed! </p>
<p>Do you feel better for that now, sammy?</p>
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