May 25th, 2009

It wasnae me that dunnit

Posted in The Job - General by 200

I’ve never been one to lie my way out of a situation, (well not one which could get me sacked or gaoled); it’s usually far simpler to apologise & take what comes on the chin. So if I cock up at work, I’ll just say sorry & try not to do it again.

The job is littered with people who complicate matters by trying to lie their way out of it. Usually, you have to be pretty damned good at lying because the consequences of getting caught out can be pretty serious. Just ask Ch Supt Adrian Harper & Supt Johnny Johncox of Surrey Police, who have just been suspended amid allegations of dishonesty in the avoidance of Speeding Tickets. I’ve never been caught speeding but if I was, I wouldn’t ask the wife to pretend she was driving just so I could avoid a fine & some embarassment. (not that that’s what those officers are accused of, you understand, I have no idea what they are being investigated for).

Christine Malcolm received a speeding notice in Lancashire for an offence on June 15th 2008. She thought she had a the perfect excuse as her number plates had been reported stolen days before the notice was received. The police provided a photograph & Mrs Malcolm sent back more photos outlining differences between the car in the speed camera pic & hers, which she said she could prove was outside her house at the time of the offence. She even got her local paper to run the story. The paper reported ‘Despite the fact she has informed Lancashire police about the situation, they have refused to believe her and keep demanding payment. She said: “I just feel so frustrated – I am the victim here and they won’t believe me. I am a law-abiding citizen and I am telling them the truth but they won’t listen.”‘ Go & check out the story, any right-minded person would agree her & her husband are the innocent victims of of some scummy car thief.

Except they’re not.

Her husband reported the number plates stolen a short time after triggering the speed cameras & both him & his wife received suspended prison sentences for attempting to pervert the course of justice this week at Preston Crown Court.

It must have seemed such a good idea at the time. I don’t know what they had to lose other than a small fine & 3 points for just fessing up & saying sorry. Now they’ve got suspended sentences, 200 hours community service & nearly a grand’s worth of fines.

Speed Camera Couple

Some people are just too stupid to lie.

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11 comments

  1. Alpha Tango says:

    Oh Dear,

    youre quite right 200, some people just seem to want to complicate their lives.

    Surpol have obviously been through all possible driving offences, in light of one of their officers having been charged with causing death by dangerous driving ( Marked vehicle, lights and wailer)

    Clean out the cubpoard, prior to any negative press coverage that might ensue during or after the trial, like you I dont know what the two senior officers are being investigated for.

    As a matter of irony, happily stand corrected ! The Surrey Mirror ran a story approx 18 months ago, where a Member of the Public had followed an unmarked police car ( High vis jacket over the back of the seat gave it away) having been “cut up” whilst the driver was on his mobile telephone. Following the vehicle to Reigate police station , he spoke to the officer who got out of the car, the end result was that the officer was subsequently posted to HQ.

    The officer, was none other than Ch Supt Harpers predessor, whom he replaced as a result of the above incident..

    May 26th, 2009 at 07:07

  2. Boy on a bike says:

    Sydney has recently been rivetted by the downfall of Marcus Einfeld, a retired Federal Court judge and all-round busybody.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld

    He tried to lie his way out of a speeding ticket, and his life came apart spectacularly. He is serving 3 years for perjury and attempting to pervert the course of justice.

    May 26th, 2009 at 09:25

  3. Alpha Tango says:

    200

    I’m unsure what can cause issues with comments, so as you read all before posting, I will leave it up to you.

    If you google, steve rodhouse and go to the “surrey herald top cop fined for speeding”….
    At least he had the good grace to admit his error, coupled with an internal global email apologising,etc. He had the good sense to take it on the chin and not made matters worse.

    Perhaps there is something in the water on the top table at Surpol HQ?

    May 26th, 2009 at 10:10

  4. 200 says:

    AT,

    posts aren’t vetted before publication, any that don’t appear are blocked by the spam filter. But I do read all that aren’t auto-deleted.

    May 26th, 2009 at 11:52

  5. Alpha Tango says:

    No worries

    Unsure of what may be described as slander, libelous etc.
    Don’t want to get in to trouble myself, or you for that matter!

    Always try to keep my comments balanced, didnt know if I could mention the above ACPO officer, but as it’s posted and in the public domain, fine.

    If you have cause to go to Mount Browne, avoid the water.. you may end up with points and a fine for a traffic offence ;)

    May 26th, 2009 at 12:12

  6. Fee says:

    When I worked for a household insurer in the claims department, I called a customer who had claimed their only TV had been terminally damaged by the contents of a can of coke. I could hardly hear what she was saying, and eventually she said “Hang on, I’ll just turn the telly down”. There was a short pause, before I asked if the claim was being withdrawn. It was. She wasn’t prosecuted. There is no cure for stupidity.

    May 26th, 2009 at 15:23

  7. Hibbo says:

    Erm, are you suggesting that it’s wrong that your poor gaffers should be investigated for perverting the course of justice? I suppose they should be above the law, being police and all that. Only the idiots in the story you quote should be brought to justice for such offences.

    It is schadenfreude in the highest degree to see police officers in the poo caught by their very own speed cameras, so your buddies in question will find very little sympathy from those outside the police force or the lodge.

    May 26th, 2009 at 19:50

  8. Tony F says:

    I wonder why people do it. What is the point about lying over such a small thing? Especially when to be caught out can open such a huge can of worms? I find that the only time to lie, is when a, you will NOT get caught, and b, when it is to protect someone else in the long term. Other than that, the truth hurts much less.

    May 26th, 2009 at 19:54

  9. 200 says:

    Hibbo,

    I’m not sure what possible reading of my post could lead you to any conclusion in your first sentence – not stereotyping by any chance, how could a police officer possibly agree with a fellow officer being brought to book???

    May 26th, 2009 at 20:39

  10. R/T says:

    I was very surprised to hear about AH. He was deffo destined for ACPO. I’d love to know what goes through the heads of officers stupid enough to try this soet of idiocy. Obviously not a 2 stretch in Ford and the loss of everything for the sake of 3 points and 60 quid! Madness

    May 27th, 2009 at 09:39

  11. Alpha Tango says:

    200

    Update re senior officers.

    The allegation is that they helped fellow officers escape punishment for speeding offences and contravening red lights.

    (front page surrey mirror)

    May 28th, 2009 at 07:02

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